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1894 Newfoundland 20 Cent. You Vs. PCGS

 
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 Posted 04/10/2021  6:08 pm Show Profile   Check silverwolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What do you think PCGS, gave it, and what do you think ICCS, would give it..

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 Posted 04/10/2021  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say PCGS gave it MS-64.
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 Posted 04/10/2021  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will guess MS-64, but the screen pictures of coin under the plastic not really good enough for me to give a reliable MS grading.
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 Posted 04/10/2021  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Check silverwolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
updated cropped photos.
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 Posted 04/10/2021  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell for sure through all that plastic but it looks like wear on the eyebrow, earlobe, and lowest laurel leaf.
AU58
I'm concerned about the black spots.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 04/10/2021  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the upthread comments regarding grade and the spots. I also see what appears to be wear on the knot and possibly the hair above the ear.

PCGS MS-64, ICCS AU-58.

Nice coin, though!
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 Posted 04/10/2021  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/10/2021  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-64 at both. Also curious about those spots. If they're corrosion then PCGS would give the same grade so MS-64 + details whereas ICCS might knock it down a notch or two.
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 Posted 04/10/2021  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the opinion that there is a tiny amount of wear on the high points, that can seen on the obverse.
Some small black spots, nice luster under the light patina.
AU-58.
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 Posted 04/11/2021  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS MS64, ICCS MS63, spots although somewhat distracting I think would be ignored by both. IMO

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 Posted 04/11/2021  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Check 47P7's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS 60
maybe details (cleaned) no offence please. when enlarged there are some questionable things.
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 Posted 04/11/2021  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Carbon spots are an issue for sure .
Tend to agree with @47P7,
when blown up , patchy hairlines
some light marks on my screen , 60 is
Probably fair . As to ICCS , they are
tough on these , so AU58 .
Still a most desirable coin !
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 Posted 04/13/2021  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Check silverwolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the carbon spots aren't seen with the human eye, without magnification..

PCGS grade this coin AU 55..
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