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2008 One Cent, Minor Varieties

 
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 Posted 04/11/2021  11:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Since I wont be including these in my book, I figured you guys might enjoy something new to look for whenever you are digging through your modern Canadian small cent collection.

2008 Full "I" in "ELIZABETH" on the Obverse. Fairly Common as it is the normal design intended for circulation.


2008 Partial "I" in "ELIZABETH" on the Obverse. One of the working punches was subject to a broken post on the "I" before, or during the hubbing process which resulted in a missing serif. Fairly common, I averaged about 2 or 3 per roll.


2008 Missing Top Serifs of the "I" in "ELIZABETH" on the Obverse. Again, this was due to a broken working punch that was subject to both top posts (serifs) on the "I" being broken off before, or during the hubbing process that created the working dies. I managed to find two examples of this after searching 20 rolls of 2008 small cents, so in my opinion it is not overly common but still manageable.
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1941 George VI 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/367977
1976 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/373627
1970 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDR http://goccf.com/t/364301
1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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04/11/2021 11:35 pm
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 Posted 04/12/2021  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loonielewy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also notice that the "L" and "A" are effected. Top left on the "L", bottom left on the "A".
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 Posted 04/12/2021  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Loonielewy, yes, on some examples I have found the "R" in Regina is missing its bottom left serif, but not always.
Aggressively searching Canadian Small Cents on a daily basis since 2018.

Some of my Discoveries.
1941 George VI 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/367977
1976 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/373627
1970 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDR http://goccf.com/t/364301
1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 04/12/2021  10:36 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good eye to catch those!
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 Posted 04/24/2021  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess would be a grease clogged die
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 Posted 04/24/2021  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with SamCoin here as being a die clog.
Look at the "A" in the last photo.

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 Posted 04/24/2021  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SamCoin and Hounddog Bill,

Since writing this post I managed to get one full roll of each and still counting.I could be wrong, but I don't think a Grease Filled Die would be consistent enough to strike that many identical coins IMO.
Aggressively searching Canadian Small Cents on a daily basis since 2018.

Some of my Discoveries.
1941 George VI 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/367977
1976 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/373627
1970 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDR http://goccf.com/t/364301
1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 04/24/2021  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your probably right JohnWayne007 with that many, I was going by the last picture it must be damage on the bottom left stand on the "A" and the bottom of the "E" also.

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 Posted 04/25/2021  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hounddog Bill,

When I was looking through them my first thought was the same, until I repeatedly found others that were identical.

The last photo might throw some collectors off by the beads, if you look at the beads and the top left of the "E" it was subject to a small amount of grease being plugged up in the die, however I found identical examples where the grease cleared up completely and only showed the damaged missing serifs of some of the letters. The only letter that was greatly impacted by the damage was the "I" in Elizabeth so I focused more on that letter when writing the post.
Aggressively searching Canadian Small Cents on a daily basis since 2018.

Some of my Discoveries.
1941 George VI 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/367977
1976 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/373627
1970 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDR http://goccf.com/t/364301
1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 04/29/2021  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numidan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Took out my notes on 2008 penny and one thing I had notice then is that:

All pennies which has a broken serif had a complete earring while those with complete serif is missing the top bead of the earring.

Thus concluding that this must have been the replacement die introducing a variety. It was disregarded as an error due plugged die.
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