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 Posted 04/12/2021  11:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Apiz13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey y'all! I recently found this searching through some bank wrapped rolls and not sure what to do with it. Obviously the reverse has some significant corrosion/mold growing. The obverse is starting to show some of the same as well. It's such a nice coin otherwise. Have been doing some looking into possibly getting rid of the corrosion or at least stopping it and have seen people say either an acetone bath, soak in olive oil, or use Verdi-Care. I can't find Verdi-Care any where and am kind of skeptical on doing anything to the coin to begin with. Was just hoping to hear some experiences y'all have had with trying to do the same. Thanks in advance




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 Posted 04/13/2021  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off, that looks like a good WAM.
The discoloration may just be gunk on the surface. If that's the case, acetone should do the trick and is the least intrusive.
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 Posted 04/13/2021  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure why you didn't show us the area of your question, the letters of AMERICA. The black that appears to be growing (centre area), is indeed enlarging, it is called black carbon and cannot be removed. Some of it is removable gunk (outside top area), but not sure why you'd want to (Never clean your coins). Doesn't look to be a WAM, but since there is not a closeup of that area we don't know. The best indicator is in the placement of the designers initials, are they close or far from the Memorial? Again, no closeup, so who knows?

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 Posted 04/13/2021  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find, hate the damage. It is a wide AM, the gap is right and even though you can't see the FG the proximity to the Memorial building looks correct as well.
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 Posted 04/13/2021  06:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
congratulations on your find.
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 Posted 04/13/2021  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find! Pity about the minor damage however.
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 Posted 04/13/2021  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find, acetone can't hurt, otherwise leave well enough alone.
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 Posted 04/13/2021  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But look at the positive. Your eyes spotted the difference on this coin. So when you continue searching, you will find better examples. Keep in mind that the 1998 and the 2000's are the most common. The 1999 is the rare one to find. Don't forget to check the 1998-S and 1999-S for the close AMs.





These will be harder to find, but they should be worth a premium because there are only 3,000 total per die on these, where as the business strike cents could have as many as one million per die.

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 Posted 04/13/2021  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well if it is a WAM, then congrats to you. I would like to see a close image of the 'FG' in relation to the Memorial and the WAM itself.
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 Posted 04/13/2021  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Getting harder to find these now a days. Had to look closely as that black spot makes it a bit difficult to see that the
"A M E" is equally spaced and the FG is near the memorial base. Nice find!
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 Posted 04/13/2021  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the coin is circulated. simply washing it off isn't going to hurt anything if that's uncomfortable, use distilled water and give it a soak and pat dry.
use a soft "hair" brush even, I mean it's unlikely you are going to take it down out of AU and it's not MS to begin with, it could just be some dried milkshake or old mold or something from someones car cupholder.

You can do acetone, but it's not going to do anything for toning or actual staining. it just breaks up stuff on the surface. It's a $5 bill really no matter what you do to it short of knocking it down below EF40. Still a $5 bill if it was MS64 in condition as far as raw sales are concerned. can get a graded MS65 for around $25, and that's not likely to have been worth the costs to grade it.

I'd just clean it up so it doesn't get any worse and put it in my collection. Don't go to VerdiCare, or the other "dip cleaners" until you've exhausted the 7 pH range of distilled water soak, and the solvents like Acetone.

DO NOT look for recommendations on the internet, I see everything from laundry detergent, to baking soda to Lemon juice, vinegar, salt.... no, just no, none of those recommendations should be trusted at all. Most of them are either acids or alkalis that will damage the surfaces, or even worse abrasives.

Neutral pH is the Key to finding something that will clean it up without etching. I'd start with as plain as it gets, some distilled water, (also it's good to use this as a rinse after acetone or you can let the acetone evaporate, I prefer to rinse.

If Distilled water don't work, and acetone don't work, then I guess the next step would be xylene. I like to start with distilled water, and honestly, I've never gone beyond it, it does good enough, but sometimes with glues/adhesives the acetone or xylene is necessary to break up the adhesive. I don't think Adhesive is the problem here. I'm actually hopeful it's simply minor mineral deposits from sitting in hard water until it dried that are relatively new, or possibly the milkshake, and no exposed zinc or actual corrosion under it beyond some discoloration int he affected area.

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 Posted 04/13/2021  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apiz13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate y'alls input. For those questioning whether it's a wide am or not that's not what I was here for. I have found enough of these now to know how to spot (A lot of that due to coops awesome pictures and info) Thanks again as always coop. And big kingdom thank for all those options as well. I like the idea of just using some distilled water. That's what I will try first. The more I look at the coin under a scope the more it seems like it is a type of gunk just on the surface of the coin. But we shall see. Thanks again everyone.
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