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Red/Pink 1969 S Nickel Clashed? Counterfeit?

 
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 Posted 04/17/2021  8:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CentHunterJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey guys, a friend of mine got this nickel and decided to save it for me. We're both kinda wondering what's up with it. I know this color can be caused by environmental factors and the copper in the coin. But I guess there is a possibility that it could be on a 1c planchet. My scale isn't working though!!! But after looking closer, it's got a lot of funk to it. Is it clashed, doubled? I think it actually resembles a counterfeit. Especially around Monticello. It just looks hand carved. I don't know maybe some of you can pitch in some knowledge. Thanks!



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 Posted 04/17/2021  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I know this color can be caused by environmental factors


Well that is my first impression--likely a retrieval from the ground. I'm not seeing a die clash, at least with the current pics and it doesn't look like the copper color of a cent planchet. Time to get a new scale so that you can confirm whether the mass is correct!
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 Posted 04/17/2021  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But I guess there is a possibility that it could be on a 1c planchet.

NO! The lettering would be "spilling" off the coins edge if on a cent planchet. Ya just got a worn nickel that may have been found by metal detecting, environmentally compromised
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 Posted 04/17/2021  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just environmental toning - very common. Nothing exotic about this, I'm guessing.
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 Posted 04/17/2021  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will not discuss the printing of the coin.

the green we see it is a protective oxide developed by nickel in salty and humid environment. The reddish color is caused by contact with potassium. The potassium is every where, and in contact with dirt and humidity will react in this way with nickel. All those are not destructive for the coin if will be keep far from oils and humidity which dry slow.

Hope at your interest.
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 Posted 04/17/2021  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Environmental tarnishing/staining/discolouration. Sorry, no premium.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentHunterJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rothery, I figured the same thing. But I can't quite rule it out because I have seen them that are nearly normal in size. Those with minimal "spillage" or cutoff were in slabs that said "1c copper planchet 3.7g" whereas the coins that look like you would expect them to were all at or around 3.1g. I wonder where the extra .6 comes from? Maybe they were foreign 1c's or something..

I pretty much figured it was environmental PMD. But the pattern resembling background stuff just had me wondering.

BUT I do have a 41 that I'm almost certain is counterfeit. I just took some microscope images of it. I think I'll get to posting it. Thanks guys.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it were on a copper cent, then it would not fit. The design would fall over an edge.
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The only thing I would like to point out about this coin is it's amount of wear especially the reverse for that year Jefferson nickel . It's not that old .
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