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1858 Flying Eagle Cent. Not An RPD, More In Line With A Doubled Die.

 
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 Posted 04/18/2021  3:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently purchased this 1858 Flying Eagle cent and while I can find nothing on any site concerning this cent I don't believe it is an RPD due to the doubling on the Eagles neck. Comments are definitely welcome as there may be a site I haven't searched. The fourth pic is from a normal 1858 Flying Eagle cent date.







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 Posted 04/18/2021  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps a re-cut date?
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 Posted 04/18/2021  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That could be an answer Coinfrog but I can't find anything on this thing and it is the correct weight at 4.71 grams.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know about these. Can someone explain the points to look for in a real one?
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 Posted 04/18/2021  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't find it in the Snow reference work.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coinfrog, that's the very first place I searched through.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's about all I can offer.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My friend, I am at a loss on this cent. In hand it is amazing to look at and you should have seen the poker face I made when I louped it! Btw, I picked it up for $40. If it's an unknown that will be money well spent.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The date was punched into the die separately, and by hand, after the eagle and the lettering.

With identical doubling on both the eagle and the date that eliminates the possibility of RPD or DDO. I'm thinking MD on this, the size of the numerals has clearly decreased in size. It's especially noticeable on the base of the 1.
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I had thought about the MD theory but there are two types of MD and this doesn't fit into either category. It is not flat or even shelflike. It's not high bounce MD. In hand the devises are raised and in comparison to my other 1858 the devises appears to be the same size. IF it is MD it is a type I have never seen. Could be some weird type of MD
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 Posted 04/18/2021  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've noticed a lot of 19th century MD can be quite deceptive. This coin being slightly worn and a little beat up isn't helping either.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have just started recently getting into the Classic coins and have louped quite a few coins with this deceptive MD you're talking about. On almost all of which I have viewed it's really light and subtle. I agree the coins condition makes this one a little trickier to decipher.
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 Posted 04/19/2021  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tanman said it well. Looks like MD to me too which is often more tricky to decipher on classic coinage. Not too bad at $40!

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