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Please Help ID Coin Dug With A Metal Detector (Id: Liberty Nickel)

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 Posted 04/19/2021  06:38 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add metal_kettle to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This coin was found with a metal detector in NY, this aarea had colonial activity and lots of activities a lake to fish swim and camp. I am gratefull for any thought of what it might be. This size of it is a US Nickel its made of copper.
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 Posted 04/19/2021  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@metal, first welcome to CCF. Second, any chance of you posting a pic of the other side to this thread also? Thx.
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 Posted 04/19/2021  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Photo of the other side please.
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 Posted 04/19/2021  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ironhorse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
some dug coins etc are hard to id due to heavy corrosion and your find is no different.
An exact measurement in mm and a weight to a couple of decimal points and of course a pic of the other side are all going to be needed to maybe get to the bottom of your mystery coins identity

Keep digging them up and sooner or later a good one will come by!
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 Posted 04/19/2021  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add metal_kettle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you for the responces, The back is really bad shape
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 Posted 04/19/2021  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok yikes not a lot to go on here. I've played around a bit with the lighting on your first pic, and am pretty sure that there is a point number 4 on the left side. Otherwise, I'm not sure what I'm looking at. The second side is below basal state, at least to my eyes.

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 Posted 04/19/2021  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add metal_kettle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dont know if its me I looked through a magnifying glass and I swear I'm seeing a 176 something it might be part of the design, I have even came back at it few hours later. Its tiny off center on the coin. Ive tried to zoom in with camera its to ditorted..Ive even tried using a soft pencil to trace details no luck. I appericate the help from all the kind folks.
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 Posted 04/20/2021  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add metal_kettle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can read a couple letter off this in the seccond part it starts with SADDR possibly and SADDIS the letters are english
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 Posted 04/20/2021  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try wetting it and then look at it with a magnifier.
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 Posted 04/20/2021  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/21/2021  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Size and composition (if copper) are consistent with a duit from the Netherlands which would have been circulating in colonial New York. But I don't see anything in the design of those coins that matches with what little is visible here.

There were also a lot of French Huguenots in New York state (Huguenot, NY is not far from where I grew up) so even French copper coins could be an option.

But I think the advanced state of corrosion makes it unlikely we can even say whether it is a coin.
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 Posted 04/22/2021  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenscot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am sure different people see different things when looking at such a corroded piece.

What I see is a gentleman in a frock coat standing on the left (who looks like he is playing the violin). To the right I can see a palm tree with its knobbly stem and fan of branches at the top. At the lower right there appears to be a horizontal scroll with a name on it.

It's an odd looking piece and hopefully someone will recognise it.
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 Posted 04/22/2021  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What I see is a gentleman in a frock coat standing...


Yes, that is the only thing I thought I could make out in that photo. Or maybe the robes of a monk/friar since that could be consistent with a religious medal (some popular saints like Francis are depicted this way, though he wasn't much of a violin player ). An extended right hand could be where @spence saw a numeral.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you reorient the obverse, it might also be a bird on a perch. Off the top of my head, pre-decimal Irish coins, some of the Isle of Man issues, and some from the Cayman Islands might be starting points, and might be close to the size and composition. That is IF it is a bird.

It might be worth taking it to a jewelry store to see if they would be willing to do an XRF scan on it for composition. That's a completely non-destructive test, but may give some guidance.

Here's the photo after I rotated it and adjusted the image. If the now horizontal line is a perch, the bird's head would be at 2:00, and the tail feathers NE-SW, ending at 7:00.




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 Posted 05/06/2021  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add metal_kettle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well its solved! today I had an idea that's worked well for me to clean coins in the past using electrolysis. After a few min it started to take notice of stars..and outline design of of a woman..Its a V nickel&. Thanks for peoples suggestions it was fun.

Michael



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