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1937 Wheat Cent Improper Alloy Mix "Woody"

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 Posted 04/21/2021  03:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add KeepTheChange to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


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 Posted 04/21/2021  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice.
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 Posted 04/21/2021  06:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like it!

One of the more extreme woodies I've seen, that's for sure.
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 Posted 04/21/2021  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice example. Love it!
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 Posted 04/21/2021  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool woody!
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 Posted 04/21/2021  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Makes it hard to cee the details on the coin!. Nice specimen
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Super example
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 Posted 04/21/2021  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wadahek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful woody!
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 Posted 04/21/2021  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks sort of like tiger maple wood!
Just for kicks what is the weight?
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 Posted 04/22/2021  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is the weight normal? If not it might be a strange lamination issue?
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 Posted 04/22/2021  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I look at the coin and pop-up me something strange:




If will be a woody effect which it is roll default due to the poor mix of the alloy, the R and O must has same trajectory of the discolor lines. I doubt the authenticity of the woody effect. Is not for the first time I see counterfeits.

Also the smalls lines like a delamination are strange because do not follows a course of rolling.
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 Posted 04/22/2021  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know, the line orientation looks correct.
look at the obverse first. The lines run from top right to bottom left.
Now look at the reverse, the lines run from bottom right to top left.

OK now if you flip the reverse from bottom to top, the lines run from top right to bottom left, just like the obverse

It's like a optical illusion. but they run the same for both sides.
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 Posted 04/22/2021  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The optical colors are superb. I will put the right over flapped to see the brown and yellow do not follow exact.




Me I say what I see and analyze with others know and certified. If this coin come to make analyze my report will be according by my knowledge of this effect from the point the view of metallurgy and metal symptoms in the processes of production of the coins.

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 Posted 04/23/2021  06:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silviosi, the angle of the off-color metal is the same on both sides. Your obverse image is slightly rotated. LIBERTY isn't horizontal.

KeepTheChange- Any chance we can get a weight on this one?
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 Posted 04/23/2021  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Peterpockets55, Yes the angles are same. The thing put me questions it is why not the both sides of the coin has same color? In the "woody effect", which it is a time effect the both sides has same color. In this case for example let take the upper right segment. Lincoln side is yellow (which normally means less copper) and the other side is brown (normal nice toning of the copper).

The weight will show more, but in my opinion is less then normal. The coin show characteristic lines and metal structure for a big delamination.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably because the metal flow is not the same on both sides. Close, but not a match. The mixture is not the same all through the planchet.
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