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 Posted 04/28/2021  10:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
1882 H Victoria Canada Penny with a strike through the E in cent . Has what looks like the queens ribbon . coming through the E
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 Posted 04/29/2021  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it a clash or strike through?
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 Posted 04/29/2021  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dan-in-crystal-lake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The orientation of the anomaly eliminates a clash. A ribbon clash would be in the field outside the E to the left pointing down to the left towards the 1 in the date. If there is a clash in field inside the E it would be hair, oriented down to the left as well.
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 Posted 04/29/2021  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Dan. When Rocky sends these huge magnifications, it get confusing.
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 Posted 04/29/2021  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its not a strike through. its not a clash. its and obverse with a reverse struck over it. there is some diaderm at the other end of the coin. I dont know if there is enough diaderm for Rob to be able to identify the obverse.
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 Posted 04/29/2021  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im not sure I follow... how can a reverse be struck on top of an obverse yet it shows it behind the "E". Would it not be on top of the "E" if that were the case?

From what I can tell it looks like a minor clash or strike through IMO.
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1941 George VI 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/367977
1976 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/373627
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1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 04/29/2021  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
okiecoiner. I have found some of the reverse on the other side . so now I know it was a fully struck coin. now it has been re struck. okiecoiner I wonder if this coin may have been restruck by accident. could that possibly happen

JohnWayne007 the obverse and reverse was both fully struck. its almost like the coin flipped over. then got restruck see the coin is shifted some degrees. hope this helps
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 Posted 04/29/2021  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here is and image of the lower part of the bust.
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 Posted 04/29/2021  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here is another image.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not any kind of a Reverse struck over an Obverse or Obv over Rev. It looks like a clash, as Dan states above, especially if there are other places where the underpunch shows through. Rocky, read up on what a clash actually is.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  09:35 am  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Image of the whole coin is required. Not a close up.......how many times has this been stated.......too many
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 Posted 04/30/2021  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the coin was fully struck on the obverse and reverse, then flipped over on its own and was struck again, it would show a lot more than minor little details like these, especially if it was not lined up correctly.

If the coin was fully struck and deliberately flipped over and re-struck (literally no point for this, or logical reason) than maybe you may see something similar to what you are trying to show. But again, I highly doubt someone would flip a perfectly struck coin, just to line it back up and re-strike it.

My guess, there was a minor clash between the dies, or even some sort of minor die damage. I also think that the Vicky large cents have been documented quite thoroughly and if this were to be something of any interest it probably would have been mentioned and documented already IMO. Not to say discovering new varieties on the vicky cents is not possible, but it's a pretty thin chance I would think.
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Some of my Discoveries.
1941 George VI 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/367977
1976 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDO http://goccf.com/t/373627
1970 Queen Elizabeth II 1 Cent DDR http://goccf.com/t/364301
1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 05/02/2021  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you so much for your help. you guys are right die clash thank you
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