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 Posted 05/13/2021  7:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Reclypso to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello, I'm fairly new to coins been collecting for about a year or so and I came across this coin at an estate sale. The toning instantly made me think it was artificial but then I looked at PCGS true views and found several that were very similar that actually got graded. The toning does not take away from the brilliance and it has a shiny hourglass around the whole coin. It ranges from a rose color to purple/blue. When out of light it does look dark which is why I'm questioning it. The toning looks too perfect but then again I don't know how someone would artificially tone this well. Also it's in an NNC holder so even more questionable :P. Thanks for any thoughts on this.
PS - The reverse isn't toned in any way

Bought the coin for $35 and I did bring it into my local coin shop to have it tested and it passed the .999 test.

EDIT: Added more photos
Photo one - Artificial indoor lighting
Phote two - Artificial indoor lighting
Photo three - Direct outdoor sunlight


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 Posted 05/13/2021  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would like to see a photo of the reverse, even if it is tone-free. Thanks.
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@ijn1944 Off work in 45 minutes I'll get one up a little after that!
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to CCF , I can see how your sitting on a fence with this piece . I'm thinking if it would be artificial toning the colors would look more bright and harsh . This coin is light and soft , very subtle . My vote is Natural tone .
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 Posted 05/13/2021  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Also it's in an NNC holder so even more questionable


This pretty much sums it up.
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 Posted 05/13/2021  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Best of luck - they've been graders for 25 years - LOL!
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 Posted 05/13/2021  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Reclypso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking there's a better chance of it being real after reading that article ^^
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 Posted 05/13/2021  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't question its authenticity or the nature of the toning. Looks natural to me. As far as the slab, I would just doubt the grade. At least it's giving it some protection, or you could break it out and put it in a capsule.
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 Posted 05/14/2021  04:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Easy enough to artificially tone high MS ASE's by two different methods:-
1. Leave in the sun on a windowsill with the coin resting on a piece of white bleached (chlorinated) paper and allow to tone to the extent of what you wish
2. Careful heat toning.

I have to admit:-
I can't really tell the difference between
A). natural toning
B). bleached paper toning
C). careful heat toning.

But for me, that doesn't matter very much,
because I prefer blast white, just as if it had just been ejected from the coining press.

Nevertheless, I also admit:-
I don't mind nicely toned high MS coins either, but I will just pay less for them, artificially or naturally toned.

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