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2018 Quarter - Error Or PMD? The Flat Parts Looks Really Smooth

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I just got this out of a vending machine pretty kwl but idkk how to tell if it's an error or someone just went to town on this coin




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 Posted 06/03/2021  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like PMD to me.
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I'll try and get a better picture the flat parts line up with both sides so I think your right. Wonder what happened to it if it's PMD, not a single scratch or scuff on the coin.
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These photos are a little better. I wonder if someone used a clamp or something to squish the coin. If it was a hammer or something I imagine it would have scratched the coin where it hit

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If anyone has any idea what caused this let me know. I am mainly curious because of the lack of actual damage to the spots that have been flattened but the coin is warped a bit on the edging due to what ever has happened. Idk that much about the minting process, tho I doubt there is any part of it that could do this to a coin. If the flattened parts were scratched or damaged or scuffed it would be more obvious to me that it was flattened with a hammer or something.
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A couple more pics.

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Sometimes with damage you may never know what happened unless you were there.
Countless things can happen to coins after they leave the mint,.
The important thing is that it could not have happened during the striking of the coin therefore it is PMD.
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I figured there was no process that could cause this iv seen like some errors that look similar but not like this. Looks like it was struck by some kinda hammer or something a couple times. I'll hold onto it anyways. Looks kwl to me. Thanks for the info. I should research the minting process so I have a better idea what could be an error
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Idk that much about the minting process, tho I doubt there is any part of it that could do this to a coin.


Good thinking. Since that part of the edge is still reeded, it couldn't have been struck in the collar that way. Your coin was hit with some sort of heavy object, though as JimmyD said, there's probably no way to tell exactly what.


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Thanks guys. I'm surprised this coin made it through a vending machine lol
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I cycle coins in the machines at work. You never know, I'm hoping to find one of the mule coins out there
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Damaged. If it was legit, the rims would dovetail into the indented areas completely differently.

Also with the interpretation of the reeding being on the edge, it was struck as a normal coin when it left the mint.
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What does it mean for it to dovetail?
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Also what kind of magnifying glass would you recommend for seeing doubling and die errors? 10× magnifying glass?
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What does it mean for it to dovetail?


Dovetail means the rims taper into the field, and not to the edge of the coin. Study the rim where it runs into the clip or planchet flaw. Here are examples of legit errors.






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Also what kind of magnifying glass would you recommend for seeing doubling and die errors? 10× magnifying glass?


That is a personal preference. I use a 10x triplet jeweller's loupe for grading and examination of most coins. For doubled dies and varieties, I have a 20x triplet loupe. These are similar to what I use:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/130558410321

For the 20x, you have to be careful with optical distortion, I use this one:

https://www.ascscientific.com/geolo...hand-lens-2/

There are other kinds of loupes and glasses that collector's use. Just do a search on ebay for a wide array of types. I use those specific ones, because I am a geologist, and I use the same lens to examine rocks and minerals.

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