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1964 P Jefferson Nickel / Satin / Fs?

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 Posted 06/10/2021  4:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Skippy72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Good afternoon. This coin appears to have a satin finish and "Possible" full steps?




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 Posted 06/10/2021  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a proof nickel, full steps are the norm on proofs.
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 Posted 06/10/2021  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the above.
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 Posted 06/10/2021  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree , 1964 business strikes have little to no steps .
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 Posted 06/10/2021  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note the rims. This is a business strike coin. A proof coin would have wider rims on it.

Did you know that sometimes the markers for a proof coin can include the die scratches on the rims? (Not on the edge, but on the rim that is part of the die)


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1964 1 Pr WDDO-036
Description: A close CW spread from a pivot at 10:00 shows on the date.
Die Markers: Obverse: A die gouge can be found on the bottom right side of the base of the bust. Reverse: A die scratch runs across the rim above the ERIC in AMERICA. A small die gouge dot can be found to the right of the right cornice.

http://www.doubleddie.com/779197.html
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 Posted 06/10/2021  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Skippy72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop thank you for breaking that down for me. I dont know much about nickels or collect them other than a few that were given to me In collections like this one. As for full steps, what is the criteria, and does this coin make the cut? Thanks....
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 Posted 06/10/2021  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't collect these, but I feel that it is not what the obvious answer is is. The lines for the steps. But the risers. I tried to figure them out by looking at their listings, and that was the only thing I could come up with. So I don't bother with these. Somethings are not what I enjoy. This is a strike issue. I collect die varieties. But here is what I determined about them:



So for what it is worth, here it is.
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 Posted 06/10/2021  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OPs'coin sure looks like a proof to me.
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 Posted 06/10/2021  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a proof:



Side by side proof and business strike.
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 Posted 06/10/2021  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good to see a different image of a 1971 No S Proof nickel.
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 Posted 06/11/2021  04:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If MS and full steps,in MS65 $187. If MS66 $1,030.00.
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 Posted 06/11/2021  04:41 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hate to press the issue, but that is most definitely a 1964 proof nickel.
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 Posted 06/11/2021  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well the edges maybe damaged a bit then. Making them look reduced in size. That was what I was seeing on this one. Normally they don't look like that. (That was my distraction)
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 Posted 06/11/2021  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Skippy72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
COOP, There is no color variation between the fields and Jefferson/Monticello like there is with a proof so it would be a business strike? I have proofs and that's how I compare them....am I wrong?
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 Posted 06/11/2021  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would be considered a brilliant proof.
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 Posted 06/11/2021  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ghawk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Every once in a rare blue moon Coop is mistaken. Mainly because hes whipping through dozens of post a day with his vast knowledge of just about everything. Still, not too bad for a guy who's right 99% of the time and has like a million posts. Certainly a proof though unfortunately, as if it were a business strike- that would have been a spectacular example. Nice coin nontheless.
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