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Fake Or Real ? Tai-Ching-Ti-Kuo Silver Coin

 
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 Posted 06/13/2021  1:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add keen317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys,
yesterday I found this coin on the market.
Now I ask myself if it's real.

Hope some of you could help me with that.
Opinions/info much appreciated.
Thanks

Weight: circa 20g





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 Posted 06/13/2021  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@keen, first welcome to CCF. Second, while these are overwhelming fake that we see posted here, can you please confirm that a magnet isn't attracted to this piece? Thx.
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 Posted 06/13/2021  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems so crudely struck. The denticles at the top are visible but there's no denticles on the bottom at all. Doesn't seem real to me.
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 Posted 06/13/2021  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% Fake!
No coins from China will struck with the words "silver coin" on it.

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 Posted 06/13/2021  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just at first glance, without taking the time to inspect, I'd agree it probably is not genuine.
But I do not agree with one statement: There are coins with the words that do translate to mean "Silver Coin" on them.
So that post by that member is just mistaken.

Edited: After a second look, there's much more wrong with this piece as described & shown that nobody has mentioned yet.
No doubt more members will point it out.
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06/13/2021 7:29 pm
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 Posted 06/13/2021  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I should clarify that I have not seen the words "Silver Coin" struck in English on any Ching Dynasty Coins. I could be wrong.

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 Posted 06/13/2021  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly the coin is not genuine, but to see "silver coin" in English try searching LM#16, 1906 pattern, one tael as an example (if it comes up).
There are others in different denominations as well.
The Chinese words for "silver coin" are on the Chinese side, so those same words are also on the English side.
And that was a standard pattern for Dragon Coinage.
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 Posted 06/13/2021  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Albert,

I stand corrected.

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 Posted 06/13/2021  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Check ryurazu's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i dont believe there where any common circulation coins with the word silver in english, the closes that I can think of is trade coins possibly and hong kong/Japanese ones.

that one is fake you can see that the silver wash is coming off already, it probably doesn't have any matching type as well. ALSO hope you didn't purchase it already. Hope this doesn't stop you from wanting to look into coins. I would try familiarising with local currency and then going out to look for them, that's way more likely to have a deal.
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 Posted 06/14/2021  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The OP states the weight as 20g.
The genuine coin would be much heavier.
The OP coin could be an imitation of Kann#934.
Tai-Ching-Ti-Kuo Silver Coin.
Volume2, Pg 330, as well as the LM16 already mentioned.
The measures of the genuine coin are 41mm diameter, 3mm thick and 37.2g
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 Posted 06/14/2021  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would ask for your money back immediately. Its a copy of a rare pattern.

Who knows what heavy metals are in it.
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 Posted 06/14/2021  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a photo of a look-a-like copy-coin made in China.
They sell for about $2.00 or so plus a few dollars for shipping.

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 Posted 06/14/2021  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would it paid $2 for that minus shipping.

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