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1907 Indian Head Penny - Please Comment & Grade - Thank You!

 
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 Posted 06/18/2021  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks off like a light wipe. I'd say ef45 to au-50 due to contact marks scattered around.
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 Posted 06/18/2021  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, EF/AU sharpness but a details coin (pocked).



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 Posted 06/18/2021  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice details, too bad about the marks. EF details.
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 Posted 06/18/2021  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ohana to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much! Sorry for stupid question, but I've seen word used a few times, " details" what exactly does this mean "details" coin. Thank you in advance anyone who explains. I appreciate it.
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 Posted 06/18/2021  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The term "details" is a catch-all phrase for "problems" on a coin - which might range from physical damage to environmental damage to cleaning.
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 Posted 06/18/2021  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First,

I agree with EF Details. It's a tossup whether the details code would be for cleaning or for the surface damage.
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 Posted 06/18/2021  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A details coin is usually a fairly damaged or cleaned coin. Yours is damaged . The EF-45 grade is what the coin is graded at without the damage .

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 Posted 06/18/2021  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ohana,

I always thought the "Details" word was a strange one to use in describing a problem coin. I suppose the third party graders didn't want to use the word "problem" or "issues" and just called it details.

Most commonly seen on TPG (third Party Graders) holders from ANACS, PCGS, NGC, SEGS, ICS, the top only good coin grading companies in the US coin market, though PCGS and NGC are definitely the top of the bunch followed by ANACS. the rest not so regarded any longer, though still often used by many collectors, the ICG and SEGS holdered coins just don't bring the market prices nor have the cache of the other companies.

Since you are new and may not have seen many of these previously here are a few I pulled out of my collection files, hope they help explain better:


ANACS Old small holder


ANACS Newer current holder


PCGS slightly older holder showing not details but genuine and #84 for the reason (see below). PCGS will also use Details on the labels depending on the situation called for.


PCGS Current holder Details & Genuine together!


NGC Current holder

Also see this very informative guide from PCGS on their holdered coins. https://www.PCGS.com/grades
Be sure to click on the Designations and the No Grades links in Blue to see much more, the No Grades has a whole subset of numbers that are on the holder and relate to the issue a particular holdered coin may have.

I noticed my Genuine #84 is no longer listed on PCGS list of issues, here is the older list and Code #'s

No Grade Description
82 Filed Rims
83 Peeling Lamination
84 Holed and Plugged
90 Not Genuine
91 Questionable Color
92 Cleaning
93 Planchet Flaw
94 Altered Surfaces
95 Scratch / Rim Dent
97 Environmental Damage
98 Damage
99 PVC Residue


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THANK YOU ! Very awesome of you all to take so much time & effort & patience to help & explain & repeat things over and over for us noobs... & It's truly appreciated, and encourages people like me to continue loving and learning the art of numismatics. Thank you #129303;
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 Posted 06/19/2021  02:57 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ohana,

No problem, remember there are no stupid questions, if you don't understand something ask. Sure there are always the cranky old curmudgeons, but most of us are pretty helpful if we can be. That is the whole reason I joined up here at CCF and not one of the other forums. People here care about others and are like a big family, of course like all families we have our crazy uncles and nutty cousins too. But mostly we all get along pretty well.
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 Posted 06/19/2021  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just to add to the comments above. a details coin can see the value of the coin reduced anywhere between 20% and 80% depending on the issue and amount of damage. if the coin is a common coin and depending on how bad it is, it may not have any collector value whatsoever other than melt for something like silver.
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 Posted 07/02/2021  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-50 details, face nics and older cleaning.
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