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2020 Shield Penny - Die Crack

 
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 Posted 06/21/2021  4:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cons to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi All.

This one is really hard to photograph. Sorry if the pics are not good.

I thought this was a scratch and a little die chip until I found multiples in the same roll. Please help identify the error. Is this a die break, crack...or something else?

I think I see:

On the Obverse Lincoln's head - die crack from beside nose moving upward and the leftward across the top of Lincoln's head. The (crack) seems to mirror the shape on the top of the head which seems odd.

DDD - see LIBERTY and top of Lincoln's head.

Rim retaining collar not right....but not a broadstrike...

Thank you for all thoughts and opinions.






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 Posted 06/21/2021  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First closeup and I'd say a scratch, second closeup, maybe more than a scratch. I know it's difficult, but better photos would certainly help
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 Posted 06/21/2021  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks merclover :) Maybe this is a dumb question. So if it is a scratch, a scratch could be on the surface of the die and then repeated on subsequent coins....?
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 Posted 06/21/2021  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Often we use markers to identify die states for known varieties. Other times markers mean nothing. But when searching rolls of the same batch, they become useful if you are trying to identify how many different die pairs are in that batch. So other times, the marks are interesting, but unless they serve a purpose, they would mean nothing. I thought this might help to explain when we view markers as important.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 06/21/2021  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cons, then it would be a die scratch not a scratch on the coin.
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 Posted 06/21/2021  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok thank you all! I can see the progression of the Die Deterioration in the roll and then found a sanded one that may be the removal of the scratch. Does that seem farfetched?
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 Posted 06/21/2021  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or it was struck before the die event happened?
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 06/22/2021  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh Ha! Thanks coop. Need to think in reverse sometimes!
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