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2015 D LSC Wwho-001 Or DDO-002?

 
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 Posted 06/24/2021  6:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've never found a doubled ear while CRHing before, so I was pretty happy when this came up. However after taking a look at Wexler's, I found it was just a working hub. But then I went to VV and found that it could be DDO-002.

What do you guys think?

(The coin seems to also have taken a hit on the right of the doubled ear).


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 Posted 06/24/2021  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like coop's saying, "Keep what you would buy."

Personally, me, I would be neither a buyer nor a seller of this coin.

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 Posted 06/24/2021  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Merclover, fair enough.

I presume you were responding to the question I asked before I edited the post, that being whether or a not a doubled hub is worth keeping. However, I do believe that it might actually be a DDO-002 instead of a doubled hub. If that's the case, then I'm certainly keeping it.

Yet I'm still unsure whether or not it's what I think it is. I guess we'll wait and see what the others have to say.
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 Posted 06/24/2021  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you tried matching any markers ? That would probably answer your question as to which it is.
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 Posted 06/24/2021  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are no die markers for either coin.

The only die marker present is on the DDO-002, being a minor die crack on the reverse, which is not present on my coin.

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 Posted 06/24/2021  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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There are no die markers for either coin.


Sometimes I look at the images posted and see if I can find a die dot or scratch that is not listed specifically as a marker but helps as an identifier.
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 Posted 06/25/2021  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very good idea 11997755, however this coin is pretty spotless when it comes to anything noticeable. Perhaps it's a new die stage for the DDO-002. Both the WWHO-001 and DDO-002 seem to contain a low amount of information on them.

I think I am tilting towards the DDO-002 because it's more noticeable than the WWHO-001.

What do you guys think?
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 Posted 06/25/2021  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VV often lists dies as DDOs that Wexler considers doubled working hubs. I tend to believe Wexler more, since a lot of the time VV will have multiple seemingly identical entries on those varieties that only differ by a die marker. (e.g. 1966 Kennedy DDOs, 1968 LMC DDOs)
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 Posted 06/25/2021  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.doubleddie.com/2486337.html
You do realize that the WWHO is not a doubled die, but a doubled working hub. Meaning that many dies were created by this Hub.

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Obverse Varieties
2015-D 1˘ WWHO-001 Doubled Working Hub
Description: Light doubling shows on the bottom left of the earlobe.
Die Markers: Obverse: Will vary on the individual working dies. Reverse: Will vary on the individual working dies.
Cross References: CONECA: 2-O-VIII
(Bold added by coop)

The doubling on the DDO-001 is in the same direction. So I feel this is not a doubled die, but as Wexler calls it, a Doubled Working hub issue. So I would keep it for now. But keep it with a question mark on it? We might need to see examples later on and if you spend it, you might regret it.
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 Posted 06/25/2021  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You do realize that the WWHO is not a doubled die, but a doubled working hub. Meaning that many dies were created by this Hub.


I understand what a WWHO is yes. I was simply asking because I thought that perhaps the DDO listed by VV was not the same as the working hub produced.

Interesting. VV calls it a DDO but Wexler calls it a WWHO, got it. I will keep it for future reference, even if it is just a product of a doubled hub. Thank you Sam and Coop.
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