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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V3.0)

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 Posted 01/17/2022  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My last from this decade (and currently my earliest medieval gold, though not for lack of trying )is this Chaise d'Or from the Duchy of Brabant, struck in the name of Holy Roman Emperor Louis of Bavaria. Witte 375. It is known that striking of these began in late 1338 at the Antwerp mint while Edward III of England was staying there for the winter. In 1343 the same type was struck in Antwerp, but bearing Duke John's name and shield, and in 1347 Louis died, so it is likely this coin was struck within the ten year span 1338-1347, and maybe only 1338-1343, though Elsen always lists these only as "a partir de november 1338." At 4.5 grams, it copies both the design and specifications of the French chaise of Philip VI.



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 Posted 01/17/2022  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is always hard to follow medieval gold, but fortunately your post is at the top of the page @tdz, so everyone will get to see it. That is superb!

Here is my last coin to post for the 1330s: another Serbian Dinar. It was issued by King Stefan IV in the range of 1331 to 1345 AD. The obv inscription is STEPANVS DEI GRA REX. I believe that is Christ enthroned on the rev. It is attributed as Jov. 1.1.



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 Posted 01/17/2022  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Chaise d'Or from the Duchy of Brabant

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 Posted 01/17/2022  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@tdz wonderful chaise d'or! Wow!
@spence interesting Serbian piece!
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 Posted 01/17/2022  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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@spence interesting Serbian piece!


I was thinking the same thing....A design I've never seen before. Is that some kind of tabernacle or reliquary?
Is it also possible that in the 1330s he had a Hungarian denar that EddieDiz didn't have (1333)
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 Posted 01/17/2022  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Updated listing for the 1330s:

1339 - tdziemia; Grinya (?) (739 AH)
1338 - tdziemia, EddieDiz, Spence
1337 - tdziemia; Grinya (737 AH)
1336-35 - none yet (would be 736 and 735 AH)
1334 - tdziemia; january1may (734 AH)
1333 - Spence
1332 - Grinya (732 AH)
1331 - Grinya (731 AH)
1330 - EddieDiz

Only one new date added (1333), with two still remaining, which is of course already better than average for this century so far.
(It looks like there's probably enough evidence to assign the "1330" denar to that year for now. Spence's denar that he didn't mention a date for is from 1338 and had been listed under that year.)

[EDIT: some minor additions]
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 Posted 01/18/2022  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
longtime I had the possibility to participate, but now I am happy to see a coin, struck in the town where I am living : Antwerp, thanks to tdziema, thank you for this beautiful coin. albert
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 Posted 01/18/2022  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are very welcome!
If you go back a few pages to posts of 14 January, you will find a very nice silver coin, also struck in Antwerp in this decade.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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A design I've never seen before. Is that some kind of tabernacle or reliquary?


Had to look it up as to me it looks like abstract art of some sort. In the descriptions of similar coins on acsearch, I see a few interpretations:

1. crested helmet left
2. veiled helmet left, surmounted by tablet, rosette, and plume
2. church with medallion on cross



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Is it also possible that in the 1330s he had a Hungarian denar that EddieDiz didn't have (1333).


A rarity to be sure!
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 Posted 01/18/2022  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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2. veiled helmet left, surmounted by tablet, rosette, and plume


No way.
I am going with...
4. Jewelry box surmounted by ham sandwich with lettuce, Wheel of Fortune. and celery leaf. (those celery leaves where EVERYWHERE in the 1330s
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 Posted 01/19/2022  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ham sandwiches aside, this is last call for the decade of the 1330s. Starting tomorrow morning, let's drop back to the decade of the 1320s!

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 Posted 01/20/2022  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From here on, I have far fewer coins, and almost none attributable to a single date .

Sticking with Low Countries, here is another coin of the Duchy of Brabant, an esterlin dateable to 1329-1337.



Obv: Quartered arms of Brabant-Limburg. DVX BRAB ANTIE
Rev: Floriate cross. MONETA LOVANIES
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 Posted 01/20/2022  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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From here on, I have far fewer coins, and almost none attributable to a single date.

Yes, now we're getting to the end of the 'Golden Horde rush' I'll be lucky to have much attributable to a decade, let alone a year. I have a few dirhams in 500 years or so.


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Sticking with Low Countries, here is another coin of the Duchy of Brabant, an esterlin dateable to 1329-1337.

I have one esterlin (well, a copy of an Edward III penny), which happens to be from this decade.

Louis IV of Bavaria, Sterling Imitation, 1325-1328

Aachen. Silver, 1.2g. Crowned bust; +LVDOVICVS ROM REX. Long cross pattée with eagle in first quadrant; MOn / ETA / AQVE / nSIS (Mayhew 332).
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 Posted 01/20/2022  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are the earliest dateable ones I have. The next decade I have anything for is 1270.


1329 Hungarian Parvus (1/3 of a denar) under King Charles Robert;Huszar 471,Unger 372,Pohl 28.







1325 Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 459,Unger 365,Pohl 16,Rethy II-51. Tiis is one I bought about 7 years ago.





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 Posted 01/20/2022  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Grinya to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@JohnConduitt, there are still some Golden Horde coins, this is not the end:))

Dang of Muhammad Uzbeg Khan, Qrim al-Maqrus mint 720 AH (1320?) Sagdeeva #189
720 -s a frozen date believed to have been struck for as long as 30-40 years without change of date, design, or ruler's name, and were in circulation for more than 100 years which may be a reason that it is not easy to find it in a good shape:)


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