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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V3.0)

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 Posted 07/05/2022  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Sussala deva..Kashmir...


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 Posted 07/05/2022  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes a great start to the decade. Keep them coming!

Here is a Denier of the French Duchy of Aquitaine that was minted between 1127 and 1137 AD. The obv legend is degenerate and reads something like [JVILIIMO while the rev legend is a more reasonable + BVRDEGVLA. I have attributed it as Roberts 4309 and Duplessy 1022.


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 Posted 07/08/2022  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wandering Circle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2 cash, Jianyan Tongbao in regular script, 1127-1130. First coin issued by the newly established Southern Song Dynasty after the Northern court was captured by the Jin Empire in 1127.


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 Posted 07/08/2022  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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2 cash, Jianyan Tongbao in regular script, 1127-1130

Great coin. You should put it on Wikipedia, as it's better than the one on there.
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 Posted 07/08/2022  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wandering Circle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there are some better conditioned Seal script 1 cash in the Wikimedia, maybe that can be used on the "Southern Song dynasty coinage" page. Quite surprise to see that many information and photos on cash coins in Wikipedia though.
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 Posted 07/09/2022  06:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a sibling of your coin, @Spence.

Aquitaine 1127-37, William X, Bordeaux. Silver, 0.89 g, 18 mm. Duplessy 1022, Roberts 4309.



I read the obverse legend as GIVILILMO, a local form or spelling of Guillaume. The 1st "I" looks like a reversed L, a strange feature that seems to be regular on these coins.
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 Posted 07/10/2022  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Quite surprise to see that many information and photos on cash coins in Wikipedia though.

Me too. But it's really useful for identification having them all on one page! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_..._inscription
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 Posted 07/10/2022  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a denar from the Kingdom of Bohemia, dateable to 1120-1125. Cach 547 (seller's photos)

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 Posted 07/14/2022  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This Quarter Dinar dovetails quite nicely with the coins posted by @pal. It was issued by King Madana Varman, who ruled from 1128 to 1165 AD.


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 Posted 07/16/2022  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my last coin for this decade, an Obol from the French Bishopric of Meaux. It dates to between 1120 and 1134 AD. The legends are pretty hard to make out, between the heavy wear and edge chip, but are BVRCARDVS EPSV on the obv and CIVITAS MELPIS on the rev. I have attributed it as Roberts 4652.


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 Posted 07/16/2022  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Jayasimha (common legend) 1128-1154/5
Copper Kaserah or Punchshi 17/18mm (6.04gr)
Obverse- Goddess Ardochsho/Lakshmi seated 'Ja ya' left 'sim'(ha) right
Reverse- King facing
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 Posted 07/17/2022  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice addition @paul. Let's plan to drop back to the decade of the 1110s starting tomorrow am.
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To start us off, here is a pair of Hungarian Denars minted for King Stephen II (1116 to 1131 AD). Clearly one is in better condition than the other, but I believe they are both attributable as Frynas H.10.8 and Huszar 76. Maybe @ed can weigh in with regard to those little tick marks which seem to distinguish among all the hundreds of sub-variety.





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 Posted 07/19/2022  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a Follaro from the Italian City of Salerno that dates to between 1111 and 1127 AD. It was issued under the authority of Duke Guglielmo and has the inscription SM on the obv and VV DVX on the rev, although clearly the flan was considerably smaller than the die. I have attributed it as Biaggi 2277.


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 Posted 07/20/2022  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of these are 1116-31 Hungarian Denars (anonymous,King Stephen II?).


Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1. This is 1 of 24 sigla varieties I have out of 76.










Huszar 92,Unger 41,Rethy I76/77,CAC Vol. II/18.7.1.1. This is 1 of 5 sigla varieties I have out of 74.






CAC Vol. I/12.10.1. This is one sigla variety I have out of 4.



Contemporary counterfeit resembling Huszar 84,Unger39,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1.




Huszar 91,Unger40,Rethy I-75,CAC Vol. II/18.6.1.1. This is 1 out of 5 that I have out of 64.




Variation of Huszar 47,Unger 37,Rethy I-53,CAC Vol.I/12.6.2. This is 1 sigla variety I have out of 12.



Huszar 76,Unger 42,Rethy I-65,CAC Vol. II/18.1.1.1. This is 1 sigla variety of 3 that I have out of 123.



Huszar 47,Unger 37,Rethy I-53,CAC Vol. I/12.6. This is one sigla variety that I have out of 9.



Huszar 94,Unger 35,Rethy I-78,CAC Vol. II/19.8.1.1. This is 1 sigla variety I have out of 64.




CAC Vol. I/12.10. This is one sigla variety I have out of 2.






























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07/20/2022 2:36 pm
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