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Help ID Chinese Dollar (Id: Fantasy Fake Fat Man Dollar)

 
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 Posted 07/27/2021  01:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bill661 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, I got this old Chinese coin and don't know anything about it. Can anyone give me some information about this coin? Is it fake? Thanks in advance!!


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 Posted 07/27/2021  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Suppose is the Fatman dollar of China. Yuan Shikai, but the ideograms above is Mongolian text? Reverse has the traditional Chinese character One Yuan. It has the appearance of strike forgery, especially around the rim, more then likely there's no silver.

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 Posted 07/27/2021  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinanthebarb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,
I will admit that I don't know a lot about this coin, but I have done a little research. It appears to be a 1914 Chinese one dollar coin. I am unsure if it is a fake, maybe another member could help you. It is about 0.755 Troy ounces of silver. A very nice coin to own.

I hope this helps.

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 Posted 07/27/2021  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Translation at the top of the coin:-
"nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah"

Forgive me of my ignorance - I have never seen anything like this before.

The scrips appears to be Thai. Maybe someone else on this Forum may be able to shed a little more light, with Thai as a prompt.

Most probably some sort of commercial fantasy, and most probably in less than good silver, and maybe? silver plated.
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 Posted 07/27/2021  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill661 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your input. Now I know more about this coin.
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 Posted 07/27/2021  06:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@bill, first welcome to CCF. Second, to help better characterize this piece, can you please list the weight and whether it is attracted to a magnet? Thx.
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Translation at the top of the coin:-
"nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah"

Forgive me of my ignorance - I have never seen anything like this before.

The scrips appears to be Thai. Maybe someone else on this Forum may be able to shed a little more light, with Thai as a prompt.

It's not Thai. Or any other script, because, it's not language. It's five pictures of bats. In China, bats are considered lucky because in traditional Chinese, the character for "bat" is pronounced the same as the character for "good fortune" (fu). On Chinese charms, five bats symbolize the "five good fortunes": longevity, wealth, health, virtuous love and dying a peaceful death in old age.

So this is not a real coin, but a "fantasy dollar" charm. It's not technically a "fake", since no genuine coin ever looked like this. And it is 100% not made of silver - these fantasy dollars never are.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How the heck I didn't think of that? Bats!#34656; and "good fortune" #31119; has the same pronunciation. Five bats fortune #20116;#31119;#26519;#38272;.

Edit: wonder why the Chinese characters always come out with #numbers.

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 Posted 07/28/2021  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Edit: wonder why the Chinese characters always come out with #numbers.
Because the forum does not support it.
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 Posted 07/29/2021  01:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For Sap:-
Thanks for the info. I am a little more enlightened.
As a consolation, I realise that some sorts of exonummia are perhaps collectible.
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 Posted 07/31/2021  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill661 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your input. Now I know more about this coin.
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