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Help Identifying Coin (Identified: Duchy Of Lorraine - Charles III)

 
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 Posted 07/27/2021  3:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jadey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Sorry for the poor quality, but these are the only pictures I have. Can anybody help identify?


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 Posted 07/27/2021  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Token?

Can you post size and weight? Any idea what metal it's made from?
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@jade, I think that your second pic is upside down. With those crowned pairs of opposing letter Cs, I'm thinking Charles III, such as this 16th Century copper from Lorraine:

https://www.cgbfr.com/lorraine-duch...67325,a.html

There is an interesting story to the single arrow through the three birds visible on the first pic. Here is a English translation from the cgb.fr website:


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The three baby eagles carried on the reverse find an old justification. At the end of the Middle Ages, people pretended to believe that the Dukes of Lorraine were descended from a brother of Godefroy de Bouillon, Guillaume. A legend has it that Godefroy, after having conquered Jerusalem, saw three baby eagles and pierced them all three with a single stroke of his bow.
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 Posted 07/27/2021  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Spence - awesome ID! Difficult finding images on Google even knowing what it is!
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@Spence
Thanks for the ID, it looks like you nailed it. As David says, not much info that I can find on the web for this, even after your ID
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 Posted 07/27/2021  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also have to give one of these to @spence:

I collect Duchy of Lorraine coins, and would not have gotten this token so quickly (I think those Cs are not used on his coins).


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 Posted 07/28/2021  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got lucky maybe on this one!
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 Posted 07/28/2021  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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There is an interesting story to the single arrow through the three birds visible on the first pic.


That device (three small birds in a row) is the central element of the arms of the Dukes of Lorraine, and was introduced on their coins in the reign of Ferry III in the late 1200s. The more famous "Cross of Lorraine" only shows up with the merging of the Anjou and Lorraine dynasties in the mid-1400s under Rene I.
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