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1987-P Quarter Mint Error Or PMD?

 
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 Posted 07/27/2021  8:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SmackRampage to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey so I got this quarter today and well it's simple... Looks to be missing the outer clad layer... Was this a mint error, or was this intentionally done post mint? As always I appreciate any insight that any of you may have...



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 Posted 07/27/2021  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a metal detector find. On way to check is to moisten a cloth and wipe on the rim of the coin. If the color rubs off, it is an outdoor find. If it doesn't, it might need a closer look. I feel it is what I described. If a coin was missing the cladding, the strike would be weakened because of the missing height of the planchet:

Note the weak strike on this coin?

These are just missing cladding on one side:

But even that much missing thickness, leaves the strike weak on both sides of the coin.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  04:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed, environmental damage like from a once buried coin.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SmackRampage to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe you're probably right there Coop... Thank you for the added pictures for reference,I appreciate that!
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 Posted 07/28/2021  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, environmental damage, probably from being buried in soil for a long time.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Environmental damage.
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 Posted 09/13/2021  02:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SmackRampage to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I kinda stumbled back across this coin and decided to weigh it and it came up 5.4 grams...Coop I did what you said with wiping the edge and I didn't get anything...I really think it might be missing the clad layer but I don't know if the weight difference matches up? Any other ideas?
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 Posted 09/13/2021  04:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is environmental damage. As a metal detectorist, I can tell you that the coloring will not easily wipe off. Metal detected coins are very difficult to clean up, the copperish layer is very deep and hard to remove.
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On the image with the scale, you can see to the closest rim a spot where the coating is showing through the coating. You would not see that on a missing clad.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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