I have MS63/64 from NGC/PCGS/ICG/ANACS.... just saying the allowances for 63/64 in MS seem to be much more lenient than PF... curious if that is how its supposed to be. 63/64 generally still allow some field scuffs...non distracting dings, etc.
the fields, etc on this barber look so darn clean.. just surprised on the 61... but I dont know much about PF... so trying to understand better.
Just out of curiosity, what issues have you had w/ ICG? Ive found then to be not bad - 40/50% grades same as NGC
at least on US non modern; 10-15% grades below NGC
; 25-35% one grade higher; 15-20% 2 grades higher. But they are MUCH more lenient on cleaning... idk, seems 85% of what I send to NGC
comes back as 'cleaned' where as ICG more like 30%. Also found good success with ICG to PCGS
crossovers. Idk..rambling. ICG is quick, cheap... and I guess I dont see the issue with them. But to each their own...