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1918 Xed Out Penny.

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 Posted 07/31/2021  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you briefly remove it from the 2x2 and photograph it? both sides, with only One light source from above and to the side to create a gentle shadow to help us see what you see?
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 Posted 07/31/2021  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess it was cut with a very sharp instrument. You can see the valley as well as the peaks that are raised on both sides of the cut. PSD.
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 Posted 07/31/2021  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It's just like pulling a plow across afield. A trench is made, but the displaced dirt has to go somewhere.


That's a great way to explain how the damage occurred with a knife, box cuter etc

As for the 1952 it's referred to as road rash. Damage
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 Posted 07/31/2021  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Intentional damage is never worth more than face value.
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 Posted 07/31/2021  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
totally with coop.
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 Posted 07/31/2021  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SouthernChange86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you say this is PMD and these cancelled out dies were made with someone using a blade than you don't know anything about the minting process. 1) If it was cut with a knife there would be a trench but if it was done on the actual working die there's going to be a valley because the planchet has to expand someone so it expands in the cut made in the die and vdb should not be on the back of this penny,now please explain to me how this was done after it Left the mint and don't try a very sharp knife either.







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 Posted 07/31/2021  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hlw1976 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll agree I don't know much about it but it does look like somebody cut Cut it and continue by filling it in. Just my opinion
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 Posted 07/31/2021  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is obviously well worn. How could a worn coin have been cancelled at the mint before production?
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 Posted 07/31/2021  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SouthernChange86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ummm, I can't believe I'm having to explain this to someone that claims to collect coins!!! It's called Human error, I don't know if you new this or not but Philadelphia during that time was the only mint allowed to make working dies and then would send them to Denver and Denver would then send them to San Fran now in your head add all the possibilities for human errors to occur. You shouldn't be giving advice until you have some kind of understanding of the die making process and remember 1918 was the year vdb went on the observe shoulder, those 1909 working dies were kept around.
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 Posted 07/31/2021  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Ummm, I can't believe I'm having to explain this to someone that claims to collect coins!!! It's called Human error, I don't know if you new this or not but Philadelphia during that time was the only mint allowed to make working dies and then would send them to Denver and Denver would then send them to San Fran now in your head add all the possibilities for human errors to occur. You shouldn't be giving advice until you have some kind of understanding of the die making process and remember 1918 was the year vdb went on the observe shoulder, those 1909 working dies were kept around.

What are you stirring at happening to this die?
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 Posted 07/31/2021  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen a lot of coins over the years that have been "knifed". When it happens it creates a trench on one side and the metal from that trench raises up above the coins surface. Over time, (and this one has had some time), it will fold over and smooth. I've seen them to the point, it looked like a raised die crack, with no crevice even showing anymore. Probably just a tired, bored, scared, soldier in a foxhole, with nothing else to do. This is simple post strike damage and there is no V.D.B..
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 Posted 07/31/2021  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SouthernChange, how would you explain that several raised segments of this clearly scored "X" on the reverse have already fallen off the planchet? The evidence of the indented scrapes are clear.
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 Posted 07/31/2021  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sound's like you have a unique coin on your hands. Perhaps you should submit it to PCGS to see what they say. If you do, and can show us the graded slab, we'll gladly pay for your grading fees. Please share your findings with us.
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 Posted 07/31/2021  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would be really a human error if the Mint decided to do two cancel dies for just one cent. This is done intentionally from someone having too much time.

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