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 Posted 07/31/2021  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's definitely one to catch the eye, especially w/o any zinc showing, as @T-BOP noted. Sometimes, it's better to work backwards doing the damage detective work. A million things can damage a coin after it has left the mint, but there are a limited number of ways a coin intended for circulation can be "messed up" before leaving Philadelphia or Denver. Your coin, as unusual as it appears, must have had the damage inflicted after leaving the mint. Wish we knew what happened — if only coins could talk.
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 Posted 07/31/2021  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After reading other comments, I think it is a damaged coin with some zinc rot that has been replated for whatever reason. That explains the "delamination" look of the reverse area around CENT, which looked odd to me at first. While it isn't worth any more than a cent, I would keep it.
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 Posted 08/01/2021  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Skittypop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks folks, I'm gonna try and get some good, clear pics of if and maybe post them if y'all don't mind.

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 Posted 08/01/2021  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see a delaminate plate. No zinc show? normal. After the plate is cut go direct to the plating proceed and then go to the strike. For this point of view is correct.

The funny part for me it is A legitim mint coin with the imprints on the delamination and near?!!!! and those are not normal strike?
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 Posted 08/02/2021  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Skittypop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Done some redneckafied photos using my phone and a loop.
to me, it looks like images possibly from another coin that has been pressed to it.

See some lines out from his face along the rim?





I sorry, not gonna beat this horse anymore. Guess it is what it is.
I did look at a few YouTube videos of coins being made and they do go thru some more processing besides the stamping process. Could have gotten hung up while being sorted and counted. Never could find any exposed zinc.
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 Posted 08/02/2021  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The final pictures you posted up are great! well done and thanks for indulging us..

Well the coin was definitely crushed somehow, when and where is a huge question. In either case, I like it, It's a great display piece.
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 Posted 08/02/2021  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First, UTube educations are the worst. Stick around here for some of the best minds in numismatics!

After studying the new photos, I have come to the same conclusions as a few others. This coin has definitely been manipulated after minting, but post mint. The damage looks to have been orchestrated to fool us to in least two parts. Perhaps a vice job coin, or crushed somehow against a second coin in the first part. I think it was T-BOP that first noticed no zinc, and is an important clue leading us to the second part. Plating copper is extremely easy and it involves mixing distilled water 5:1 with muriatic acid (available at any hardware store).

Plating copper over copper would hide the zinc exposed in part one, and (nearly) fools us into thinking this coin is some super rare/special piece, when in fact, just like the many vice jobs we see here, it's only meant to deceive.

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I sorry, not gonna beat this horse anymore. Guess it is what it is.
I did look at a few YouTube videos of coins being made and they do go thru some more processing besides the stamping process. Could have gotten hung up while being sorted and counted. Never could find any exposed zinc.

Like Columbo waiting for the "nail in the coffin" clue, this was it. "Never could find any exposed zinc."


I noticed JimmyD and spruett001 were the first to mention this possibility, I bow to that expertise!



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 Posted 08/03/2021  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hallor Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Remember I'm new at this but what if the busted on the penny right before this one and then struck this one.
Is that possible.
Don't laugh I had to ask.
Looks like a good job of plating to me if that's the case.
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 Posted 08/03/2021  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Skittypop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought about the same thing Hallor Bill. I guess it could be possible. I'll I know is that I got this penny back in 2007 in some pocket change along with other new pennies. I personally don't see why someone would take a brand new minted penny and go to the trouble of jacking it up, plating and sticking right back in to circulation. Even if they did, I would think it would have been in more detail (visible over stamp of another coin) beside just being like it is.

I'm am NOT an expert on coins. Heck, I couldn't even tell you most of the key dates of most collections. I just know in my mind that this one was damage at the mint.

Thank y'all,
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 Posted 08/03/2021  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
People looking for errors should learn how coins are made and what can go wrong to produce true mint errors.
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 Posted 08/03/2021  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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what if the busted on the penny right before this one and then struck this one.
Is that possible.

Would someone care to translate this for me, please?

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 Posted 08/03/2021  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe they placed the coin in fabric or paper to squeeze it in a vise to alter the coin, without splitting the plating?
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 Posted 08/03/2021  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm am NOT an expert on coins. Heck, I couldn't even tell you most of the key dates of most collections. I just know in my mind that this one was damage at the mint.

Skittypop
if you learned the minting process you would realize that this is impossible for
that to have happened during the striking of the coin.
The fact that part of the rims are missing should be enough to tell you that.
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 Posted 08/03/2021  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An the hint of the were there. Now they are gone. (...)
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Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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