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Hello, Hoping I Can Find Out About My Grading I Received From ICG

 
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 Posted 08/04/2021  02:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kenny24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I received a grading from ICG and it was my first time. I am new yet been collecting for about 5 yrs but always learning. I took this coin to a coin dealer prior to sending for grading and he told me to hang on to this coin. He spent like 20 minutes searching through books, online and calling other dealers. He was stumped and cannot find this coin like mine. confirmed it is genuine and was told it was genuine by PCGS by sending the picture.

The grading I got is : 1987-D 1C AU 55 DTLS Corroded

Can anyone give their opinion? I don't think it was corroded but I could be wrong. Thank you in advance.



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 Posted 08/04/2021  03:15 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would tend to agree with PCGS on this one. 1987 Lincoln cents had a zinc core that was copper plated. For a variety of reasons when the copper was applied and the coin struck, the end result was "plating blisters." These are just little gas pockets between the layers, and are quite common. They come in a variety of forms, but one of the forms is like little mini volcano cones, with the top of the blister eroding off and leaving a ring-shaped, raised ring on the coin. There are some really wild examples of them out there. Sadly, your coin appears to be one of these, which I suppose is a type of corrosion, so PCGS label is seemingly correct.
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 Posted 08/04/2021  04:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
.I agree with zinc rot,very common. That coin should never had gotten sent in in the first place. The value is 1˘ and it cost way more to have slabbed. Also,ICG is not one of the trusted graders to most of us. In order of trusted graders:PCGS-NGC-ANACS.
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 Posted 08/04/2021  04:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely zinc corrosion. Around the mint mark is a very common place for it to start. I would find another dealer, he should have recognized this immediately!
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 Posted 08/04/2021  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenny24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all very much. I didn't know if I had a re punch mint mark. I thought it looked like a D over a upside down D. So it is a blister? I never knew what that was. lol. Thanks, have a blessed day.
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 Posted 08/04/2021  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the dealer should not be a dealer if he did not know about rot, this is very common
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 Posted 08/04/2021  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin dealer friend sounds like he might be completely clueless if he thought this was anything but a corroded penny. I think the grading service nailed it.
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 Posted 08/04/2021  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The cause? Split plating during the strike. It is the most common area to see this split plating.

Followed with split plating the reverse on UNITED.



The next spot that is common is on the building.



As long as we have copper plated zinc cents, this will always be an issue. Often called a heavy strike issue, as it doesn't happen on every coin.
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 Posted 08/04/2021  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenny24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Thanks so much. I wish there was classes on numismatics in college or small schools. The dealer is a old man and says hes been in business for 60 years. Maybe, his eyes are going. IDK. Thank you for welcoming me.
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 Posted 08/04/2021  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, the mintmark has a zinc rot blister on it which will continue to grow, even in the slab. I also agree, this should have never been sent in for grading in the first place. Rather than your clueless coin shop, come here first. It will save you a lot of time, frustration and money.

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 Posted 08/12/2021  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, looks like zinc rot blew that one up. the image is a little fuzzy but a die chip wouldn't have that dimple in the middle.

ICG gave you the correct AU "Details" grade, meaning it is damaged.

PCGS only confirmed it was Genuine, meaning it was a real US cent, not that it was an error/variety of some kind.
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 Posted 08/13/2021  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Instantly recognizable as zinc rot but I will say it is the most "D" resembling zinc blob I've seen yet.




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