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1882 Morgan Silver Dollar

 
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 Posted 09/18/2021  11:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jimpurple to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
found this at a garage sale

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 Posted 09/18/2021  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice garage sale find! What did you pay? I'm thinking MS-62 but would like to see more pictures in different lighting. Hard to judge the luster.
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 Posted 09/18/2021  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obverse looks cleaned?
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 Posted 09/18/2021  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS62. Coinfrog I think that is the lighting
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 Posted 09/18/2021  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No opinion on grade. The reverse is interesting. Note the severed leaves on the left wreath.



This may be the C3c reverse that is being studied (see the second coin, reverse photo). It may also be a later die state of 1882 VAM-39.

Or it may be something else. The reverse also matches the known 1882 counterfeit in The Black Cabinet, CF-S$1-1882-001.

EDIT: The 1882 counterfeit is troubling. It has high silver content, and will pass an Eddy Current Slide test and is within tolerance on weight. It fails an XRF test. It's surprisingly close on a specific gravity test. It's close on the ping test, but will be in the right octave, but three or four tones low if measured digitally on an FFT Plot (Fast Fourier Transform) meter. For reasons unknown, our friends across the Pacific used significant silver in this particular counterfeit. Test drive, maybe? Along with the VAM-correct 1899-O counterfeit, it is one of the most deceptive common date counterfeits.
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 Posted 09/18/2021  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting, thanks.
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 Posted 09/18/2021  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU58- MS60 tops for me. Looks like a good amount of scuffs and scratches in the fields, along with the high points and cheek. Also hard to make out what's going on with too much glare from the light source in the NE side of the obv and rev.
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 Posted 09/18/2021  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Check Collects82's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Collects82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm at MS-60. Far too many marks and things to be more. I don't otherwise see circulation wear on it. Wouldn't be shocked if it got a details for the hairlines or something like that.

If this is a counterfeit it is an incredible reproduction in its details.
My hoard of '82s is up to 204! 218 BC x 1, 118 BC x 3, 18 BC x 1, 82 x 1, 182 x 1, 282 x 2, 382 x 1, 582 x 2, 682 x 1, 782 x 2, 882 x 1, 982 x 4, 1082 x 1 1182 x 8, 1282 x 2, 1382 x 1, 1482 x 5, 1582 x 13, 1682 x 15, 1782 x 57, 1882 x 49, 1982 x 33
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 Posted 09/19/2021  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks cleaned but hard to tell by the photos
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 Posted 09/19/2021  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
surfaces are blown out due to lighting. resub using natural indirect lighting. MS62 or UNC details (cleaned/polished)
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