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 Posted 10/01/2021  8:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PNWHiker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm thinking its fairly low but its the best out of 3 I have. I'm curious as to where yall would grade this cent at.

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 Posted 10/01/2021  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll lead off with VF-30.
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 Posted 10/02/2021  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly what I was going to say , VF-30 .

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 Posted 10/02/2021  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could go with a strong VF35.
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 Posted 10/02/2021  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VF35.
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 Posted 10/02/2021  11:57 am  Show Profile   Check BadThad's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you photograph it with a white background - a sheet of copy paper?
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 Posted 10/02/2021  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These 20's branch mint cents can be really tricky because there were a lot of weak strikes out there that can be hard to differentiate from wear. The date and "In God We Trust" look really strong while the center details are less strong.

I'm thinking 40-45 but not real solid on that.

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 Posted 10/02/2021  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bestjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say a Jimmy Durante nose.
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 Posted 10/02/2021  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Check BadThad's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm thinking 40-45 but not real solid on that.


Waiting for better pictures, especially with respect to the color. I'm thinking AU/MS. The rims are so clean!
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 Posted 10/03/2021  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Waiting for better pictures, especially with respect to the color. I'm thinking AU/MS. The rims are so clean!


I had AU as a possibility in my mind but not really seeing any mint luster on these pictures so I bumped down.

The other thing interesting looking again - the tips of the right wheat stalk are strong, the left not so much so which seems unusual for it to be wear.
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 Posted 10/04/2021  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Check BadThad's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The other thing interesting looking again - the tips of the right wheat stalk are strong, the left not so much so which seems unusual for it to be wear.


Check out the wheat grains on the left stalk, they seem to be weaker than the right which is unusual for these. Maybe it was an over adjustment by the mint since the right side is normally weaker? SF mint was a joke in 24/25.

This is a really cool coin, I wish the OP would come back with pictures on a white background so I can gauge the color better. The strike of this coin makes for fascinating study to this Lincoln nerd. It has a LOT of interesting features.
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 Posted 10/12/2021  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Check BadThad's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bump....come on OP! Where are you?
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 Posted 10/13/2021  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i just had to revisit this one. "in god we trust" sharp. date & MM...sharp. reverse motto...sharp. right wheat stock...sharp. typical strike for the year plus worn die.

i originally had this one at VF35. I'm going mid AU at AU55. I think the lack of luster would preclude MS. as Badthad stated this is a lesson in the fact that you cant look at photograde to grade this one. hopefully a lesson for graders new to the field or grading weakly struck coins.
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 Posted 10/13/2021  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting critter. The strike weakness doesn't match the MDS die state, the peripherals are strong but uneven. The left wheat stalk either has die gouges at the top or PMD all along it. I wonder if the weak central devices suggest either a light ram setting or a slightly underweight/tapered planchet (weight would help here).

The marks along the left wheat stalk are interesting. The top two look raised, suggesting die gouges. The rest look incuse, suggesting PMD. That could be an optical illusion, though.

There is clear evidence of circulation, but it isn't heavy. Except for the new scratches, the obverse contact marks have wear on their edges. Maybe AU-53/AU-55, or AU Details if the marks along the left wheat stalk are PMD?

EDIT: Yikes. I just read the upthread comments. Maybe I'm way off here?
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 Posted 10/13/2021  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I could see EF-45 or so, but the idea of this being almost uncirculated is just a bit over my experience level.
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