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1814 Contemporary Counterfeit 8 Reales?

 
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 Posted 10/03/2021  5:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add newguy22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I believe what I have here is a contemporary 8 reales counterfeit dated 1814. Would my assumptions be correct? I believe the assayers initials on this piece are engraved as RG, which is an initial set that doesn't exist. After weighing on a balance, the mass came out to be 24.40 grams. The sound this coin makes when doing a ping test sounds similar to this piece: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces30223.html I'd say this piece has some silver in it, but it's very debased.






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 Posted 10/03/2021  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newguy22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Follow up: Even though this isn't a Carolus IIII 8 reales piece, could this coin still be classified as a Type I counterfeit?
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 Posted 10/04/2021  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add threefifty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that's a Class 1 counterfeit, looks like GNL#1814-O: A/R: Mo RG-001 (or similar). Great coin!
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 Posted 10/09/2021  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is a contemporary counterfeit as identified above. The sale of the Mike Ringo collection included several of this type.
My book on Counterfeit Portrait 8Rs is available from Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Counterfeit-.../1500497177/ or from me directly if you want it signed.
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