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Austria 1819 20 Kreutzer - Question

 
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 Posted 10/12/2021  3:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add otto to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I see coins like this pretty often. Specifically, I'm wondering about the cuts to the reverse. I believe they were put there by the mint to adjust the weight of the coin, but I'm not sure. I'm guessing they would modify the die, but am not sure what they do.


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 Posted 10/12/2021  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weight adjustments can be done with a file, but normally on the edge.
I'm not certain, but I don't think that practice would have been done on a coin like this.
To me it looks like scratches.
Damage of some sort.
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 Posted 10/12/2021  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add otto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Damage of some sort.


Albert, check this out from Heritage Auctions (MS-62 French Ecu). https://coins.ha.com/itm/france/fra...pe=NGC231344

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 Posted 10/12/2021  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen a few 20K's in much the same sort of condition this one, and also with the same sorts of 'sratches'

Leads me to think that perhaps? the weight adjustment was done by the Mint after the coin was struck, rather than on the blank or planchet before the coin was struck.
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 Posted 10/13/2021  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Adjustment marks are usually parallel scratches on the coin. They are done after minting, in order to fix overweight coins and recover the metal. They look like defacement, but graders recognize what they are. Here's another French example. I have not seen this done past the 1820's.




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 Posted 10/13/2021  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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They are done after minting, in order to fix overweight coins and recover the metal.
AFAIK adjustment marks were typically made on the planchet, prior to striking. If done post-strike they would probably have been indistinguishable from post-mint damage.
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AFAIK adjustment marks were typically made on the planchet

This makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
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