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An 1864 Two Cent Piece With A Patent Medicine Counterstamp .

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Here's an 1864 Two Cent Piece bearing a patent medicine stamp. Dave Bowers gets the credit for attributing this counterstamp. The issuer was Charles H. Goodwin of Exeter, New Hampshire. He had shops on Water Street, commencing in 1856. A pharmacist or apothecary by trade, he marketed and sold a variety of drugs and notions. It's thought that his OIL OF ICE may have been a byproduct of camphor; this, as there was a "camphor ice" product then known.




These OIL OF ICE counterstamps are typically seen on Indian cents. I also have a Shield nickel bearing this stamp. Brunk and Rulau documented about 60 known coins,with 1880 being the latest date recorded. The total may well approach a hundred or more.

This issue has been copied. The copies, produced with individual letter punches, have rounded O's. Note the squarish O's on this genuine piece. Fortunately, not many of these copies have been seen.
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 Posted 10/26/2021  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool, thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 10/26/2021  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like it! My google search, however, did not enlighten me as to what "oil of ice" was. I would assume like most patent medicines it grew hair and probably cured everything.
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 Posted 10/26/2021  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a great brand name! It brings to mind old whiskey brands like Elk Tooth and Vim.
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 Posted 10/26/2021  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fplagge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To my way of thinking... OIL OF ICE would mean WATER. Perhaps this was the mother of all scams!
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To my way of thinking... OIL OF ICE would mean WATER. Perhaps this was the mother of all scams!

I seriously doubt this was the case. Goodwin maintained a downtown apothecary business for many years. He must've had a good reputation as such. Scammers, the flim-flam men, were typically transients. I'd note that there were a good many traveling men who counterstamped coins to garner word-of-mouth advertising!

Camphor was extracted from tree bark and was mainly used as a soothing agent, applied to the skin. I was unable to find any ads suggesting that Goodwin widely marketed this product. However, he did advertise a few other of his products. Stay tuned for my next thread on these products ....

BTW .... Thanks for the enthusiastic replies, guys!
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 Posted 10/26/2021  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmgi2020 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool!
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 Posted 10/26/2021  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you can find a historical documented linking to the counter stamp, the coin would have a lot more numismatic interest.
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If you can find a historical documented linking to the counter stamp, the coin would have a lot more numismatic interest.

'Oli of Ice' suggests camphor oil skin rub, to my way of thinking. Vicks Vapor Rub would be a more modern equivalent.
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If you can find a historical documented linking to the counter stamp, the coin would have a lot more numismatic interest.


I thoroughly agree and endeavor to do that with every article I write or counterstamp post that I make. If you check out my other postings, you can find many ads and pics of products. Oftentimes, I've acquired a silversmith's spoon with a matching hallmark, a knife with a matching maker's mark or a daguerreotype with a matching stamp on the casing. I can't afford to buy all the early guns, so I settle for pics of those.

I do have one of Goodwin's news ads that cites a pair of his other products. The OIL: OF ICE is not mentioned therein. I post that ad with examples of his other counterstamps.
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 Posted 10/26/2021  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Check captainrich's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add captainrich to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are OIL OF ICE counterstamps on a Flying Eagle cent, Indian Head cent and a Shield nickel.



BTW, my avatar ["USE GOODWIN'S GRAND GREASE JUICE FOR THE HAIR. G.G.G."] is also related to the above Exeter counterstamp.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  12:19 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like it, and a deuce of course, I haven't seen that counterstamp before, really neat.
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I like it, and a deuce of course, I haven't seen that counterstamp before, really neat.


@ Westcoin .... I thought you might chime in on this "deuce" as you lovingly call it. The uncommonly seen host bearing this c/s was my incentive to acquire it.

@ CaptainRich .... Great examples, you've got. I've long admired your avatar!
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 Posted 10/28/2021  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenwright396 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
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I found a bit of info here, which you're probably already aware of.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...ce-453353596

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It's likely his OIL OF ICE was a camphor in glycerin concoction. This information came from a 1928 Saturday Evening Post that mentioned "old Charles Goodwin invented Goodwins Grand Grease Juice and Goodwins oil of ice..."
I tried looking for the 1928 mention but their archives require a subscription.

This would appear to be his headstone in the Exeter NH cemetery. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial...enry-goodwin
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