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 Posted 11/10/2021  5:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jerry to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
A 1966 Aussie 2 cent "No-Sd" in PCGS AU-55...rare...






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 Posted 11/10/2021  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats, nice-looking example.
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 Posted 11/10/2021  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some research reveals that there was a range of dates for Australian Two Cents coins that have no 'SD'.

The opinion offered is that the 'SD' is due to the tiny letters in the die, which are subject to grease filling. In can be inferred that as a result, the coin pictured is a minor error, not a variety.
Nevertheless,
'no SD' Two Cents coins are relatively scarce, and as such, can be valued at $50 of more in uncirculated condition.

"SD" are the designer's initials. I have personally spoken with him may years ago on the subjects of jewelry and coin design. He thought that his most successful coin design was the Australian 20 Cents coin, which is still currently issued. He opined that showing the platypus under the surface of water in a round frame coin design was a difficult task, but ended up being very well interpreted.

He was once appointed as Goldsmith to Elizabeth 11. Now deceased.
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 Posted 11/11/2021  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry:
Researched this in the UNSW in Sydney's rare book division years ago looking back at the magazines from the period and then interviewing a person that worked in the mint at that time. According to them there was a test die that was used for alignment when the decimal series 2 cent piece was initially made that got mixed in with the production dies. The reason was that some dies cracked due to the high production volumes and rather than create a new die they just used this one. It was used in years 1966, 1967, 1968 and 1981 before being retired. The estimate I heard was about 10k was used for all those years. The coin community at the time didn't think it was rare until I mentioned it in 1996 in the Coin Review.(now out of print).
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 Posted 11/11/2021  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
P.S.
As this was a mint created issue without the initials of Stuart-Devlin (SD) and INTENTIONALLY used by the mint and not an error coin that makes it rare. Few people of the time collected them so the survival rate is only a few. Of those years mentioned above the 1966 No-SD is the rarest IMHO having tried collecting all associated dates (1966, 1967,1968 and 1981).

Yes, there are strikes from "grease-filled-dies"and "hub-doubling" but they are different.

Regards (JH from Beacroft)
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 Posted 11/12/2021  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So that is mentioned in a 1996 Australian Coin Review? That's the first I've heard of that story.
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 Posted 11/24/2021  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was in "Letters to the editor" along with the discovery about the 1981 20 cent with scalloped lettering-then graded and both authenticated by the ACGS (no longer active)
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 Posted 11/25/2021  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Of those years mentioned above the 1966 No-SD is the rarest IMHO having tried collecting all associated dates (1966, 1967,1968 and 1981).


The 'No-SD' was covered extensively in Books and Publications back in the late 1960's,i have an article somewhere but as usual I can't find it but will Post when I do locate it.

I'll throw this up whilst I have the Mag. out.
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11/25/2021 5:39 pm
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 Posted 11/25/2021  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It was in "Letters to the editor" along with the discovery about the 1981 20 cent with scalloped lettering-then graded and both authenticated by the ACGS (no longer active)


Do you remember which issue that year?
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 Posted 12/02/2021  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still can't find the article on the 'No SD' 2c.Back in the 1990's(pre Internet) I lent a pile of Coin Mags.to a local Coin Club to scan the 1960 articles they were interested in and did not get them back,it may be amongst them.
I'll keep looking but IIRC correctly they stated a filled Die was 90% certainly the cause,using the logic that mind boggling mintages from the Mints would cause this.
But,using the same logic it is possible a unused Die was used.



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