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Is This 1999 Silver Eagle Worth Getting Graded? MS70?

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 Posted 11/25/2021  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dont know how it could be graded based on the pics that I see but with that said I am pretty sure it has a few marks at least on the obverse but full size photos of the coin filling the shot would help.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add suipakpaikungfu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe I see a few contact marks on the OBV.
Have you ever heard the phrase
"Put your money where your mouth is?"
Send it to PCGS and post the slab when it comes back.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Also note the toning starting on the reverse around the rim . thanks guys


Wouldn't that alone show that it's been exposed to air, and also wouldn't that alone keep it from a 70 grade?
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 Posted 11/28/2021  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Check captainrich's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add captainrich to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I made sure I subscribed to this topic, so that I could be among the first to know the eventual PCGS grade!
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 Posted 11/28/2021  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Here is some beginners fishing tackle. Its worth your time to read.

Following is info concerning the actual nature of grading companies that can help people make better educated decisions.&

Thinking of Slabbing? Make sure you understand the Facts...or You Could Lose Money.

1. The grading companies are not a way that the majority of people, even those with a great deal of experience who know what they are doing, are going to be able to use in order to make huge personal profits. Many people start using grading companies thinking they will find a way to finance their hobby, but they learn a hard lesson quickly.

2. Watch some of Daniel's videos where he gets pieces back form the grading companies. Note even people who live, eat, breath, and deal coins for a living (like Daniel) can accurately predict what grade the companies will give. And...the "fault" (not really a fault) is in a widespread mistaken perception people get from being exposed to all the slabs being sold nowadays.

Coin grading companies are a business out to make a profit - this is why they exist. They use a system where (allegedly, but in reality its normally two) three graders look at each coin and give an opinion. The company videos showing the process make you believe this is a relaxed paced process of studying each coin. In fact one PCGS video shows a number of guys sitting around a table discussing what they think a specific coin should be graded as (on youtube somewhere - sorry no link). Uh uh.

If you take a PCGS graded coin slabbed as MS64, break it out, and resubmit it to PCGS, you are never guaranteed the same grade again. The slabbed coin might come back MS62 (bad day for graders), 63, 64, 65, 66 (great day for you!). This is b/c the process is all subjective: No scientific/verifiable standards or methods are used. Personally having talked with former graders (granted - its been awhile), the process is very rushed since they told me graders are paid by how many coins they can get through in a day.

But..this is all hearsay without proof. So...
[URL="http://goccf.com/t/346174#65533;]Grading the Coin Graders[/url]

Here is another good read from someone there at the start of the grading companies:
[URL="http://goccf.com/t/130186]Hobby negative impacts from slabbing companies[/url]

3. People also seem to think grading companies will examine a coin to see if they can find an error and then slab it as such. But again, they ONLY GRADE coins. The companies will NOT try to find and ID an error for you. You must FIRST ID the error yourself, CHECK to see if the company you want to use recognizes that specific error, PAY them to verify the error on the label, and then you may or may not actually get what you pay for! The companies have a bad reputation for attributing errors correctly.

Link to and read (download if you want it) the pdf link in my signature as an eye opening example.

The verifiable data presented shows trusting people have spent thousands of dollars on many slabbed coins that are not what the companies claims/slabbed the coins to be.

You don't have to throw in the towel over these companies...but education about the reality of them will put you on the right pathway to dealing with them in a legit way without losing money in the process.

And.if you just like to collect slabbed coins for what they are, which makes losing/making money from slabs irrelevant, then of course enjoy them!"

How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash?
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 Posted 11/28/2021  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrpapageorgio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Can you guys please help me with grading my bullion ASE?"

*Members give opinion believing it won't grade 70.*

"You guys are losers! There's no way it can't be a 70!"

This year I sent in 16 coins to PCGS I thought had a very high likelihood of grading 70. Nine came back 70 and two came back 69 with five pending. Don't consider myself an expert, but have gotten better at pre-judging compared to my earlier days when I first started submitting based on the helpful expertise in this forum. Looking at the ASE you posted, I would not send it in if my sole objective was to get a 70.

But please, send it to PCGS and let us know how it goes. Will cost about $150 including paying for the initial membership if you insist everyone here posting is wrong and that we're just blind instead of trying to save you a grading fee that will likely leave you disappointed and out money you didn't need to spend.
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11/29/2021 01:22 am
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