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1851 1/2c (Liberty, Distraught At The Election Of Millard Fillmore, Develops A Cocaine Habit .)

 
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 Posted 11/28/2021  08:26 am Show Profile   Check pristine2's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add pristine2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Did NGC give her a pass on this?

Can she be rehabilitated somehow, without being thereafter ridiculed and derided as "cleaned"?


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 Posted 11/28/2021  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice surfaces. I think it is technically a 63, but lots of small divots on the obverse and green verdigris under the nose. Net 61.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  10:52 am  Show Profile   Check pristine2's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get the sense she spent some time in very wet conditions.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe try NGC's own conservation service?
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 Posted 11/28/2021  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
as is MS63 details. not sure if it can rehabbed to the point where it would grade straight. I think if the booger is picked it could uncover a surface problem
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 Posted 11/28/2021  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Best you could hope for would be a different color under it from the surrounding areas.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Verdi-Care?
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 Posted 11/28/2021  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see any wear and surfaces look OK overall. MS-62 BN straight grade seems fair. Verdi-Care carefully applied might remove the green spot and would be worth a try, IF you are willing to crack the slab.
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 Posted 11/29/2021  12:07 am  Show Profile   Check pristine2's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd like to get some, but I've never ever been able to source Verdi-Care. I was going to try it on a roll of 1935s Lincoln cents that were all AU/BU but afflicted with little green spots. But I never found any place that stocks it.

Not sure I would try it on a pricier coin like this anyway ...
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 Posted 11/29/2021  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I've never ever been able to source Verdi-Care


badthad has stated that it should be available soon. hopefully when it is he will post something here
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 Posted 11/30/2021  08:01 am  Show Profile   Check pristine2's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing it escaped a details grade, I think.


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 Posted 12/01/2021  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a little shocked it didnt pull the designation. the obverse obviously held it back from a 63 grade
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 Posted 12/01/2021  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Check pristine2's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent the coin to NGC with a request for their "conservation service" and a re-holdering.

We'll see what happens!
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 Posted 12/02/2021  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I'd need this one in hand to see the surfaces, if no pitting then sure it might upgrade if it conserves well.

P.S. on pristine2's original description that was a great one! Not many people could put Millard Fillmore and cocaine in the same sentence and make it funny and relevant. Kudos to you sir for the chuckle!

I also agree a wash or soak in Verdi-Care would have done wonders on it before slabbing.
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