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What Caused This Damage? 1965(P) Washington Quarter

 
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 Posted 11/30/2021  3:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Igor22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Any ideas of what caused this damage? I was thinking some sort of Machine or Surface Grinder.

I've seen this damaged "Extremely Rare Error" Washington muddying up the Numismatic listings of ebay. A couple of weeks ago, I passed along the information that nothing during the minting process would have caused the coin to have such details. And was purposely damaged....but, the seller claims that the word of local Pawn Shop guy is the ultimate determination of the coin being an "Error", despite not being able to name the error....see screenshots of messages.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Extremely-...334237120170



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 Posted 11/30/2021  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not an error, PMD.How it happened only one person knows for sure.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely damage. You can't have a rim only on one side without it being damaged.
Will report it to eBay on tomorrow's report. Hopefully it will be gone by the end of the day.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Deliberate damage, clearly.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Igor22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Will report it to eBay on tomorrow's report. Hopefully it will be gone by the end of the day.


Do you have a way to get better results of reporting fraudulent or obvious misleading ebay listings? I have reported listings using the "Report Listing" link at the bottom of the page, with little or no results.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tell Bobby.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Igor22, There are some on CCF who have powers over eBay sellers that are best left to such Wizards. As Gandalf said, "I fear I am beyond your comprehension." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Two Towers

I am not one of them, but I know those CCF Wizards exist, and admire their secret powers.
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 Posted 12/01/2021  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Igor22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am a lifelong collector of coins. At least once a year my Grandparents (before their passing) would give me individual coins or coin sets as a gifts for birthday, Christmas and so on. Many times they had given me "Rare Error Coins" they had bought online that were nothing more than damaged coins....a Road Kill Coin, a dark colored Bicentennial Quarter recovered by someone Metal Detecting and so on. Later finding out that these "Rare Errors" were purchased via eBay for $10 to $20 each from scumbag sellers that know they can take advantage of people like this.

I oftentimes search through the newly posted coin listings of eBay, and within minutes will come across a seller that has a pile of "Rare Error" coins that are very obvious PMD. Politely informing the seller of the mistaken evaluation of an error and asking to remove the listing usually falls on deaf ears, and the "Report" link is often a coin toss (no pun intended).

Just this morning I've come across a seller ( ribr_7409 ) that has 7 Error, Missing Clad Layer, or Improperly Annealed coins....some of which are "Sponsored" to gain more visibility. See the below screenshots of the listings all from the same seller.

Having better access to report such listings could very likely save some of the people that are very trusting of other people's word, such as how my Grandparents we're.

Yes, I understand that everyone needs to do their own research before making a purchase....and I also feel that "Research" should also be done by sellers before making claims of "Error" and such. Many of these sellers may not know any better and have been mistaken, but then will continue keeping the listing active after they have been given information and other examples of the coin being PMD.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?isR...7409&_sop=12





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 Posted 12/01/2021  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just proves that anybody anywhere can ask whatever price they want on an open market like eBay, but it doesn't mean they'll get it. This type of seller can ruin numismatic sales for everyone else. Let the buyer beware! That's why we suggest people check SOLD listings for a better indicator as to values.
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