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1940-S LWC Pre-Cud (Retained Die Break)

 
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 Posted 11/30/2021  6:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this in an old wheat bag I'm going through for the second time. Never know what you missed the first time! I'm fairly certain this is a retained cud, although the weakness of the left side of the die crack makes me skeptical. This example also has a spikehead.






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 Posted 11/30/2021  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see a return crack to the rim.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a cud to me. Congrats.
(I don't think there is a minimum size requirement for a cud.)
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 Posted 11/30/2021  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the frog. At least in these pics, the crack seems to fade out on Abe's shoulder.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you may actually have three retained cuds. (Or "pre-cuds" in the new lingo.) They are a bit hard to see, but they appear to return through the rims. I couldn't find any of them on cuds-on-coins.


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 Posted 11/30/2021  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you check the COC site?
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 Posted 11/30/2021  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Check sheldius's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice. It's weak but the crack definitely returns just east of the end of the bust. I don't think I can go through my wheat bags again, unless I can't get any new ones under $0.10 a coin.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the responses everyone! I appreciate the input.

@fortcollins
The other two retained die breaks you're seeing are just lighting. In hand, there are no other retained die breaks. Thanks for checking though, I appreciate it.

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Yes I did check COC, and couldn't find any listed retained die breaks or even die breaks that fit the shape, size, and location of mine.

Edit: The crack does seem to disappear for a small portion at the shoulder, but there is a return crack. I'm not sure if this still qualifies as a retained die break.

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 Posted 12/01/2021  04:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The missing part could just have worn off,it is a high point.Try taking a black & white pic to see if the crack shows up any better?
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 Posted 12/01/2021  07:39 am  Show Profile   Check VestigeWolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add VestigeWolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may be a stage of UCD-1C-1940S-01 at COC.
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VestigeWolf is correct! Thank you for providing the listing. Here's the link for anyone who's curious:
http://cuds-on-coins.com/udc-1c-2007/
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 Posted 12/01/2021  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gotta agree with fortcollins, it certainly seems to be three retained cuds, especially after comparing it to the COC photos.

Spetacular find QH72! You're doing what I'm doing, looking through old stuff, and there's no doubt that there's still stuff to be found even after it's searched!
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Thanks silver cents! Best of luck.
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