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What Grade Is This 1889 Crown?

 
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 Posted 12/03/2021  05:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add westy00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Thoughts?

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 Posted 12/03/2021  05:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In Sheldon grading, it looks AU-50ish... nice crown, I don't currently have any nice examples yet, but I still am looking...
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 Posted 12/03/2021  05:49 am  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On UK grading I think this would get aEF - there is some noticeable wear on the high points, but most of the detail is crisp. The edge knock beneath the date is a pity.
US grading is a mystery to me - I would guess at least AU, maybe a low MS grade?
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 Posted 12/03/2021  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am at gVF (British grading).
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 Posted 12/03/2021  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm at AU-50 Sheldon. Very attractive.
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 Posted 12/03/2021  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MHGBC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
British grading, id say VF to gVF
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 Posted 12/03/2021  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with most of you, its a near EF coin, just some wear in conspicuous places keeps it out of a full EF (Hair on Queens temple), (St George's chest and arm), but the lustre and general feel of the coin is so nice. This is a beautiful example.

aEF/gVF (Reverse is better).
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If it's round, shiny and silvery I will love it.
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 Posted 12/07/2021  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd agree with Paddy and Princetane, approximately Brit NEF.
Shame about the contact marks and rim knock.
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 Posted 12/20/2021  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westy00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok gents back from grading , who's the winner here as it came back as a vf30
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 Posted 01/01/2022  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zookeeperz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VF-30 From who? if it came back from either PCGS or NGC it doesn't surprise me as when it comes to British coins they are clueless. Anyone who knows anything about coins at all even an experienced novice can see the coin is at Minimum VF (UK) which would cross-over @ Au-50 (US) . If however it came back from LCGS who I don't agree with hardly ever as they always undergrade coins unless it is their own VF-30 UK grade is probably about right.
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 Posted 01/01/2022  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westy00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya so I sent it to ICCS with a bunch of British and Canadian coins. I'm new at this and as per ICCS website they grade Brit coins so I sent them only to hear later that it was a waste of money as they arent recognised to do so . I will consider sending to NGC or PCGS .
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 Posted 01/01/2022  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Why bother spending more money? Just enjoy owing it. This is a very common date for Victoria crowns and even high grade examples are inexpensive.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westy00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Because I will be selling it.
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 Posted 01/08/2022  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Um, obvious past cleaning/light polishing? Anyone?

Such a common problem with these keepsake Jubilee crowns...

ICCS does some funny things from my casual observation. My impression is that they seem to occasionally net grade cleaned pieces - I think that's what happened here. Detail is XF+ to AU American grading.
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 Posted 01/08/2022  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, possibly a little too shiny for 133 year old silver. It's missing the natural age related toning I'd expect to see.
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 Posted 01/09/2022  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westy00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had others come back as cleaned in the same batch so possible one slipped thru but not likely .
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