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 Posted 12/03/2021  10:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sh521932 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This time sharing before I consider purchasing: cleaned and ED? What grade and price would you consider fair for this coin?

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 Posted 12/03/2021  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would never even consider buying this coin raw. Period.
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 Posted 12/03/2021  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sh521932 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, but why not? Teach me, obi-wan.
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 Posted 12/03/2021  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As the frog points out, are you sure this coin is authentic? If you are not an expert you should avail yourself of one. It certainly looks cleaned with huge chunks of its surfaces missing. Can't begin to value it without knowing it is real. Slabbing is a cheap way to do that. Working with a knowledgeable dealer may be another way. Put another way, not every coin that has a 1798 date was made in that year.
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 Posted 12/03/2021  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sh521932 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With the damage to the obverse, I wouldn't have considered buying this coin. The reverse crack is also suspicious, at least to me.

What book do ya'll recommend for the draped bust and earlier large cents other than Sheldon?

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The book is a good approach after you spend 10,000 hours reading it and doing everything else you need to do to become become an expert. Malcolm Gladwell says that's what it takes. If you don't sleep or do anything else, you can do it in 1.14 years. If not, it takes much longer. If you can wait until you have developed the expertise, it may be 4-5 years of intense study to become an expert on these and you may then know enough to pick a great coin. Most people just buy slabbed or work with an expert because they have lives to live.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its a 1798 cent not 99. that die crack on reverse id's it as a S- 166
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 Posted 12/04/2021  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good catch, jerryc39. It's an S-166, one of the most common 1798's...
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 Posted 12/04/2021  12:43 am  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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its a 1798 cent not 99. that die crack on reverse id's it as a S- 166

I thought I recognized that reverse crack!!

I would not buy a corroded large cent of this significant price without it being slabbed. I am a raw coin kind of guy, but large cents are tricky. It is easier to tell authenticity on a BU cent as opposed to a barely recognizable corroded cent. I would save the ache and buy a slabbed example, even though they are more pricey.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  09:39 am  Show Profile   Check pristine2's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I certainly wouldn't berate the OP for buying this coin, which is typically corroded but has quite a bit of remaining detail.

Of course it all depends on what he pays for it, but unless the price is outrageous it seems like a perfectly reasonable acquisition to me. I'd say $40-$65 might be fair.

This is apparently the most common single variety of 1798 cent --- S-166, style 2 hair. But the date does seem a little unusual.

Weighing the coin is a great way to build some confidence in its authenticity. It should be something a bit less than 10.89 grams.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
although the rev die crack says S-166 that date does not look correct as previously noted. PASS-A-ROO on this one
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 Posted 12/04/2021  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look genuine to me.
Pass on it.
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 Posted 12/05/2021  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are so many great books out on Large Cents these days, I still recommend the Notes books not cheap but some of the best photography and the census is still relevant even years alter as the top tier coins haven't really changed much nor have many new ones appeared since. The full set of books will set you back over $600 though.

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ch...s-26794.aspx

Be sure to re-click on the Half & Large Cent link on the upper left side to refresh and you should see the set of books or individuals.
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 Posted 12/06/2021  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Opps I meant to say "Noyes Books" Not Notes Books. DOH, waited too long to edit it as well.
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