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1884 O Morgan Guess The Grade And Grading Company

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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly a carbon spot by the third star .
This is a rather nice looking Mint State Coin .
Fairly nice strike for an 1884O as well .
I would be perfectly willing to call this
MS63+
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's good sharp picture there jacrispies, I believe that carbon spot toning can have quite a contrast between the silver color, so that's what I'm also seeing it here.

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 Posted 12/04/2021  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think "hole" means you should be able to see through to the other side. I don't see the other side here.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-62 I think
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 Posted 12/04/2021  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Check pristine2's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please assume that there is no bickering rule on this forum, and kindly adhere to it, or people will start dropping faster than a Zimbabwe dollar.

The spot does seem a little weird -- honestly it doesn't look natural to me, more like someone created it with the tip of a soldering iron -- but maybe not enough to warrant a details grade. I'd say MS 62.

No holder provided to guess the TPG. IGS and ANI are some older TPGs I remember that aren't around any more.
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 Posted 12/05/2021  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 12/05/2021  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS64 based on the garage shots and the spot on the 3rd left star is the result of a pin hole in the mylar window of a cardboard 2x2 prior to TPG encapsulation.

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 Posted 12/05/2021  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
strike is quite nice for this year which can be weak so thats a plus. unbroken luster. small amount of cheek chatter. carbon spot distracting. reverse MS65, obverse MS63+. net at MS64

not sure why you are acetoning it. do you think that will remove the carbon spot? maybe its the lighting but I'm not seeing any PVC
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 Posted 12/05/2021  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent luster, and the reverse looks great. I think that carbon spot would hold it back to MS-64.
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 Posted 12/05/2021  10:44 am  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies. You can see light green goop over the entire coin in the first pair of photos. The second set of photos doesn't show acetone, that is after I removed it.

The original TPG packaging had it held in a PVC flip. It is now back in the original packaging in a 2x2. The TPG label shows the carbon spot has been there since 1987...
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If you know the carbon spot was there in 1987, you probably have an old ANACS photo certificate. I think they graded the obverse and reverse separately, so I'll change my guess to MS-63/65.
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strike is quite nice for this year which can be weak so thats a plus. unbroken luster. small amount of cheek chatter. carbon spot distracting. reverse MS65, obverse MS63+. net at MS64



No idea what a third-tier TPR would say on the grade. I can think of one basement slabber who would call it MS-66.
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 Posted 12/05/2021  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ICG called it an MS64 I think it's not far from an MS64 myself, MS63++++ Carbon spot probably has no effect on grading.
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 Posted 12/05/2021  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just realized you said the grading company is now out of business, so it can't be ANACS. It might be IGA (Independent Grading Associates), which was in business in 1987 and included photos, with the coin in a vinyl pouch.
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 Posted 12/05/2021  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I just realized you said the grading company is now out of business


Opps, me too, as I said ICG and they are still around, maybe PCI?
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