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1798 Draped Bust Cent: I Don't Think This Coin Is Genuine

 
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 Posted 12/05/2021  5:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Thoughts? Supposedly it's a 1798 S-161. It has choppy tooled lettering, bad jawline and throat, "diebreaks" where they don't exist, etc.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cent...ption-071515

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12/05/2021 5:25 pm
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 Posted 12/05/2021  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heritage and NGC are two very reputable and respected companies. IMO, it's highly unlikely they both missed a fake.
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 Posted 12/05/2021  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd have to agree.
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 Posted 12/05/2021  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has diebreaks on the reverse, as well as a double-cut fraction bar, the big lump on top of the D in United, none of which appear on a genuine S-161. The filled A in STATES is laughable. There are some coins in holders, such as a particular 1806 C-1 Half Cent, which are well-known to be fake and in 3PG holders
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 Posted 12/05/2021  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree this coin looks strange. But corrosion sure can do a lot to change a coin's appearance. I think this deserves a second look, but nothing screams counterfeit.
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 Posted 12/07/2021  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The chin is not a Draped Bust large cent device; it's been totally re-engraved in the die. The left ribbon end has a big bite taken out of it, and there is a die break seen from the D of United, across the two leaf tops, and then to the berry, with s a matching break under it. Neither are found in any die state on a genuine 1798 S-161

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