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What Happened To This Cent? (1913 S)

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 Posted 12/07/2021  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cpfull to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I should have been clear, I was agreeing with you about the wheat stalk area being damage.
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 Posted 12/07/2021  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glue never came to mind, an acetone soak would probably answer that easily.
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 Posted 12/07/2021  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Check BadThad's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like welding or brazing spatter. No matter how you look at it, it's PMD.
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 Posted 12/07/2021  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I should have been clear, I was agreeing with you about the wheat stalk area being damage.


hahaha.. I guess I was agreeing with you agreeing with me.. We are on the same page, same book too.


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Looks like welding or brazing spatter. No matter how you look at it, it's PMD


no I don't stink it is 'spatter' from brazing or welding. If it were, there would be more spalling and little semi round balls of solidified molten metal not a smear like peanut butter on bread...

but it could be PMD or it could be die damage at this point.
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 Posted 12/07/2021  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weight as I said before would you help, the OP is the one with the coin in hand and agree an acetone soak could also help. Since the rim seems to be effected as well I'm leaning towards glue or something else on the coin.
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 Posted 12/08/2021  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The last image seems to show some dark opaque "splatter" or drops on the base of the right wheat.

Seems like resin, glue, or sap to me. A soak in acetone might reveal what it is.
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 Posted 12/08/2021  10:09 am  Show Profile   Check sheldius's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll keep watching this thread in case it ever gets a acetone soak.
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 Posted 12/08/2021  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will give it an acetone soak for a few days.
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Note how on ONE, the tops of the devices are affected? To affect the depth of the die that much I would expect that all the devices would be affected like that. But not on the top of the 'N'? You can see a lamination peel there. So I feel this is a struck through issue on the coin. If so the weight could be close to normal. On a lamination it would be affected a bit deeper on the surface. So I feel something thin uneven desbris was struck onto the coin and some areas peeled, leaving the raised high spots and the parts of it has not fallen off the coin yet.

The obverse on the date, note the wear pattern is in the opposite direction as normal die wear? These dies had the large rims on the coins and this happened different on the older wide time dies:




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