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1856 Seated Liberty Half Dime, What Is Going On Here? Broadstruck?

 
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 Posted 01/18/2022  4:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I snapped this up on ebay for $110, these are the sellers photos so I don't have a picture of the edge. What do you think is going on? There appears to be expansion to me but maybe it's an illusion, not sure. The strength of the rim and the flattening of the denticles is a concern of mine.


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 Posted 01/18/2022  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm strange indeed. It doesn't look broadstruck. First impression is PMD, but there is no major tooling marks or bending of the coin. Possible mint made error here.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm that is weird. I was thinking that a broadstruck coin would not have a rim since by definition it was struck without a collar. I wonder if it isn't damage, but am interested to hear what others think.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any chance you can give us the weight and diameter of this coin?
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 Posted 01/18/2022  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with your concern Spence, on the surface it appears genuine but theres discrepancies that are setting alarm bells off.

Coinfrog, Soon as it comes in, sure. As of right now its in the sellers hands, so these photos are all I have to go off of.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was this potentially struck on a dime planchet? Or more along the lines of a die-adjustment strike? Interesting though...
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 Posted 01/18/2022  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What's that edge like? Complete and solid denticles all around?

I'd hope CCF member Matthews34 sees this that's Joseph Cronin who wrote the book Mint Errors to Die for. A wonderful reference with amazing photographs. He doesn't take emails here but I'll send him the link as he is always willing to look at a coin and offer his expert opinion on it. To me it's PMD so far, but it almost looks like a railroad rim off center, unless the edge is all normal then I'm at a loss, nothing like this in Joseph's book.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1buff2many to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure what causes this on the half dime but if you search eBay on past sales "1856 half dime" I think you will see others like this sold over the past couple months.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The denticles are still present, but I don't think this is broadstruck either, maybe taken out from a bezel of some kind.

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 Posted 01/19/2022  05:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was my first thought as well.
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It isn't broadstruck. I'm not sure what causes the weak dentils but you will see this a lot on half dimes from the 1850's, but not usually to the extent this coin shows. A problem with the hardening of the dies might cause this if the circumference of the die is too soft.
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 Posted 01/21/2022  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look like any "normal" mint error. In any case, it looks like a cleaned coin with VF detail. Unless it has a legitimate, value-adding mint error it seems like the price was way too high. Can you get a refund?
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 Posted 01/21/2022  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah I'mnot very worried about the price because the return privileges are very forgiving. If it turns out to be normal, PMD, or otherwise unsatisfactory I can return it and be out like $4. Happy enough to gamble $4 on a snap buy.
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