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1858 Flying Eagle Cent Doubled Die - DDO-002, FS-101

 
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 Posted 01/24/2022  02:08 am Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This DDO seems to be a bit on the rare side, with a total in all grades of 4 at PCGS. I knew the coin was shiny cleaned when I bought it, even though seller very misleadingly had it as "choice BU." I figure overpaying a bit for a cleaned coin would be made up for by the high details grade on a rare variety.

I am thinking this will slab MS-Details Cleaned, but honesty don't know squat about the "genuine" label. What would be the best course of action here?

1858 fling eagle cent doubled die - DDO-002, FS-101





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 Posted 01/24/2022  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd personally call this AU Details, but I'm sure a TPG would say Unc Details. I do feel hand out Unc too freely. Do see some pitting, corrosion could have been removed. Not sure as to the Details designation; cleaned, corrosion removed, altered surfaces?

As far as "genuine" holders, I've never gone that route. Guess it's more of a psychological route to go for people that don't want a Details designation and a reason on the front of the slab. To my knowledge they still list the code on the reverse of the slab.

Regardless, great find and tough variety.
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 Posted 01/24/2022  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could be wrong but I don't think PCGS does a "genuine only" slab anymore - you either get it slabbed with a specific Details designation on the front and "genuine - not gradable" on the back, or request that it not be slabbed at all. I'm going off what's currently published here https://www.PCGS.com/submissionguide

There's an old press release from 2008 describing their "revised genuine service" that shows the old " PCGS Genuine" label which shows the details code but does not have the Details description on the label, but I can't find anything saying that they still do that. https://www.PCGS.com/news/PCGS-revi...uine-service Maybe somebody has a link to different info.

I guess you could roll the dice but the variety seems obvious, so it's a personal choice whether you want it in a slab officially designated or not. ANACS would be a cheaper solution for that.
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 Posted 01/25/2022  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenwright396 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find, I'd go with MS-Details cleaned.
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 Posted 01/25/2022  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the great comments! My initial plan was to see about PCGS MS details cleaned as an end game, and although Ty thinks it's AU I just don't see any circulation wear. So it'll go in the pile to end up at PCGS and we shall see how it comes out. Given the long return times I don't suppose I will have it back for quite some time, but I will update this thread whenever that is.
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