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 Posted 01/25/2022  06:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Anzelmas to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, m8s!

Need help. I think it is some sort of Poland coin, but I can't identify it.

Silver
Diameter max 23.20 mm
Weight 1.05 g




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01/25/2022 06:45 am
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 Posted 01/25/2022  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely not Poland.

To me the design looks like Low Countries (or nearby), and I think we can see a date of 1505. But it does not look like the design of a coin under Burgundian rule, and I am puzzled by the small shield in the center of each side.
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 Posted 01/25/2022  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is a coin of Friesland under Saxon rule.
Maybe 1/2 stuiver of Leeuwarden like this one (hard to tell because the coin in the link is in such poor condition, but I think we can see enough).
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8165782
I've taken your first photo (which that link has as the reverse), and shown how your legend and date are a match:



The other side is easier, where we can see the legend MONETA NO DV before it becomes too worn.

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01/26/2022 5:20 pm
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 Posted 01/26/2022  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you nailed it, @tdziemia. I scratched my head but gave up. Impressive work!

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we can see the legend MONETA NO DV before it becomes too worn

I think it is even possible to at least discern letter forms consistent with the ...X SAXON GVB that follows.
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 Posted 01/26/2022  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anzelmas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
tdziemia, with your help I found it. You are 101% right. The coin is:

Friesland, Dukes of Saxony
Stuiver 1505
Ruler: Georg van Saksen (1504-1515)
Reference: Van der Chijs VII-6



It's a pitty that I can't upload the .pdf file here. The .pdf file is very good quality and all details can be seen.
Maybe somebody knows the value of this coin?
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 Posted 01/26/2022  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad to be able to help!

We might be surprised that the coin in such poor condition sold for 140 euro in that Heritage Europe auction this year.
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot...lot&sid=4712
So, yours is comparable or slightly better in my opinion.

I would be grateful if you can post the link to Van der Chijs. I've been expanding my interest in Low Countries coinage, and do not yet have this in my e-archive.
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 Posted 01/27/2022  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you!

For some of the smaller states in medieval Low Countries (Gelderland, etc.) I think this is still the most often cited reference.
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 Posted 01/27/2022  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply



Are they still working on the reprint?
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