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Silver Thick Indian Coin With Marks

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 Posted 03/31/2022  09:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,

I just found by accident that this indien coin has testmarks or stamps on the side. I have nevver seen this before and was wondering if someone knows the coin and what this is on the side? In the past on Chinese coins there were several marks and bankmarks but I have not seen it before on a indien coin and especially not on its side.





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 Posted 03/31/2022  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reminds me of an India Mughal Silver Dam.
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 Posted 03/31/2022  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Such marks on Indian coins are called "shroff marks". A "shroff" is an employee of an Indian banker or a merchant whose job it is to test the silver quality of coins their customers give them. Specifically, they were to be on the lookout for plated counterfeits, so the method of testing was usually to make a small punch or drill-hole, just to see if it was silver all the way through or just a thin plating.

In that sense, they function similarly to the "chopmarks" found on Chinese coins, though shroff marks are usually smaller and simpler, and almost always found on the edge of coins.
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 Posted 03/31/2022  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is fascinating @sap. Thx for helping me learn something today.
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 Posted 04/01/2022  03:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did not know that Sap. Very interesting! I have not seen this before on a idian coin but it makes a lot sense. The word shroff is now added to my vocabulary :)

Do you have a idea from who this rupee might be? Toby, Spence , Sab or someone else?
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 Posted 04/11/2022  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wizened to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a neat looking coin. I have more or less given up on identifying Indian coins. Someone knowledgeable could tell you ruler, province, date, and mint. There are so very many varieties. It has a general look of a Mughal coin. I can see no numbers on it to date it.

The Shroff marks I have seen have overwhelmingly been drill marks where the coin was tested. These look more like counterstamps or banker marks to certify a coin. And placement on the edge makes it more interesting.

That coin is so thick, relatively. How much does it weigh?
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Sorry, I totally forgot to reply. The weight is 10,76 grams more or less. And the thickness 5-6 mm. Still have no clue which it exactly is?
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 Posted 04/18/2022  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wizened to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a resource for Indian coins.
http://www.chiefacoins.com/Database...s/Mughal.htm
Rupee weight was generally a bit over 11 grams. So yours would be a rupee, not a half or a double.
Good luck finding a match to your coin. there are so very many types.
I looked for anything Indian with an edge like yours, and the only thing I found remotely like it is:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic72828.html
Your coin is quite unique and should be kept.

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 Posted 01/25/2024  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drnsreedhar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It should be a rupee of IPS Kutchawan.
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