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What Mule Is A Mule Coin These Days

 
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 Posted 04/24/2022  06:52 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Allcoinage to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What makes everyone think its not a mule if it doesn't show
Full rim.
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 Posted 04/24/2022  07:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry but could you be a little more specific. Is this about a previous post? Please show photos of what you are referring to.
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 Posted 04/24/2022  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Allcoinage to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok will do I change over phone for
Better quality pics.
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 Posted 04/25/2022  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Judging from current eBay/Facebook usage here in Australia, one might believe that "mule" meant "mint error". But a "mule" a very specific kind of mint error. Specifically, a "mule" is where two dies that "belong" on two different coins, were improperly paired up and mashed together to make one coin. There are mules in many different coinage series worldwide; one of the most famous in the British Commonwealth series is the 1967 New Zealand 2 cents / Bahamas 5 cents mule. America has recently seen several "mules" where a die from a $1 coin is used to make quarters.

In the Australian series, prior to 2000 the most famous mule was the extremely scarce 1916 mule halfpenny, with the obverse from an Indian quarter-anna. But in 2000, the Mint made a new mule error when they accidentally used 10 cent obverse dies to strike some $1 coins. The 10 cent piece is smaller than the $1 coin, so this particular mis-match inevitably creates a noticeably much wider rim around the obverse. This "wide rim" is quite distinctive of the mule in question. If a 2000 $1 coin doesn't have that wide rim on the obverse, then it might be some other kind of mint error, but it's not a mule.
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 Posted 04/25/2022  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Check ryurazu's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Sap did you see the Gumtree ad for the 1916 halfpenny mule was a couple of years ago now, I think the person was asking for lot, pretty nice example to.
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 Posted 04/30/2022  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What makes everyone think its not a mule if it doesn't show Full rim.


Are you talking about the 2000 $1 mule? Even in a mule doesn't have a full stepped rim it's still a mule, but people want a full stepped rim more because it's more obvious.
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 Posted 05/12/2022  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Allcoinage to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes indeed that's why I matched the 2006 5 cent coin with $2 coin Isn't that a mule because $1 is struck with Australian 10 cent planchette correct.
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 Posted 05/12/2022  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MachinMachinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If these are the kind of coins you're talking about they are not mules. Just slightly off-centre mistrikes. Fairly common with 2 dollar coins.

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 Posted 05/13/2022  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Allcoinage to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More photos cropped of Australian $2 double
Rim.




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 Posted 05/13/2022  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Allcoinage, one method to crop and orientate your photos is to simply right click on the photo and choose 'Edit'. Here you can easily crop, resize and rotate your image.




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 Posted 05/13/2022  04:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OzLeigh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Allcoinage, I don't understand what you are driving at.

If you are suggesting this is a mule because the rim isn't uniform over the entire circumference of the coin, I am sorry to disappoint you but it is clear from your 4th photo with the two coins side by side that the head on the 5c is smaller than on the 2 dollar coin. You can easily tell this by measuring it on the screen.

The obverse die wasn't aligned properly and as a result the obverse is slightly off-centre producing a "double rim" effect on one side of the coin.
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@all, best practice is to not make multiple threads covering the same topic so I've merged your two threads. You are all set now.
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