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1908-D Barber Quarter For Grading And Comments

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 Posted 05/15/2022  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh my. your new photos show a coin that the obverse was cleaned. there is no way those hairlines occurred at the mint or a bag. have to change my grade to UNC details. I would not crack this one out of its cage. I cant see how they didnt pick up on this.

just goes to show you how lighting and shadowing from it can alter the look of a coin.
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 Posted 05/15/2022  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You said it, obviously cleaned. Terrible call.
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 Posted 05/15/2022  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ouch. I agree, the new photos show a cleaned coin that is NOT market acceptable today.
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 Posted 05/16/2022  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tintin_54 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I concur with the fact that the coin shows evidence of an old cleaning. I wonder why ANACS could overlook these hairlines. (Tbh it took me a while to find the distinct hairlines under the loupe). Does that mean that ANACS grading standard is not as reliable as previous years ago? The grade on the slab is not valid? The coin looks great but I'm sad to see the parallel hairlines under the loupe. The seller is professional and generous as they let me return the coin within a reasonable amount of time. Should I keep this? Again thank you for everyone's contribution.
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05/16/2022 05:33 am
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 Posted 05/16/2022  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Should I keep this?


not if you paid MS $$. buy the coin not the slab is the rule of thumb
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 Posted 05/16/2022  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, new photos show the cleaning. An instant killer for me. I would not come close to buying this coin because of the cleaning, unless it was found in a junk silver bin.
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 Posted 05/16/2022  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With modify my original calling and also shift to team Details, AU Details, cleaned, bummer.
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 Posted 05/17/2022  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many straight graded barbers in ANACS holders are called out as cleaned or details. I disagree that the high instances on ANACS coins graded straight are actually details. Unless the shots are taken with good armature coin setups every line or fleck of dust shows menacingly which absolves conisuers from making a wrong call but folks ANACS is not PCI and ANACS will detail a coin appropriately and in an instant.
Were looking at pops of uncirculated barbers with pops in hundreds not thousands at some point the collection community gets that at some point and to some degree many may certainly have been dipped, wiped, treated etc.
Seems no equipoise will ever be found but imo the 3 TPG's know how to call these and by ANA standards.
Those that are quick to "details" a barber rarely show their pickups, mistakes, treasures etc.
His coin would bring 200 + on ebay or GC without a pause likely from some of the harshest critics. MS-61 is defined in many scholarly articles it is a grade and it comes before MS-62
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