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A Very Strange Diocletian Abdication Follis

 
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 Posted 05/12/2022  4:42 pm Show Profile   Check Paul Bulgerin's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently purchased this abdication follis of Diocletian but it has me puzzled in a number of ways.

The obverse legend reads D N DIOCLETIANO FELICISSINO SEN AEG instead of the listed D N DIOCLETIANO FELICISSIMO SEN AVG.

The reverse legend reads PROVIDENTIA DEORVM QVICT AVGG instead of the usual PROVIDENTIA DEORVM QVIES AVGG.

I also can't find the mint mark BM (dot) SD for Serdica. RIC only seems to show (dot) BM (dot) SD (dot) as an option.

The coin looks good. I don't think it's a modern fake. It's in very high grade and is mostly silvered. It weighs 8.46 grams and is 27 mm. in diameter.

Are these simply blundered legends on both sides along with a blundered mint mark?

Is it an ancient counterfeit?

Is this some sort of imitative (which I haven't heard of for these large coins)?

Any ideas out there?





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Has it been tooled? There's no wear on the beard and full legends without flatness is unusual. The patina seems to only be on the tops of the letters.
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 Posted 05/12/2022  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Check Paul Bulgerin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Under my 10x loupe it does not appear to have been tooled but I am no expert at this.
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A link was provided on another forum which showed this coin was previously sold by Roma Numismatics where it was listed as "heavily tooled and smoothed", so I was wrong about it not being tooled.
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Ok yes the smoothing is pretty apparent too. Well, it explains the strange legends. It's a pity they did it, and to even get the letters wrong. It's as if they just went with what they thought might be there.

It's also terrible that the seller didn't mention the tooling when they bought it tooled.
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