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1923 P Two Feather Buffalo

 
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 Posted 05/13/2022  7:22 pm Show Profile   Check jadenusa's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add jadenusa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Months ago in another thread I posted an unattributed 1923 two feather buffalo. I FINALLY got the coin back from PCGS but it came back as a non-2F. Suffice to say I'm pretty ticked... I think their graders are overworked and overwhelmed because they whiffed on this one in my opinion. You be the judge:

PCGS Reference Sample:
https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...s-401/569437

My coin:
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/43546558
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 Posted 05/13/2022  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this a designation that requires an additional up-front payment on submission?
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 Posted 05/13/2022  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You already know my opinion on this one. PCGS dropped the ball. No doubt yours is a 2F Doing a comparison there are several pickup points on the obverse that clearly show its the same die. When I have time later I'll do a markup. Only thing to be said is the PCGS finest known example is a later die state. Don't quote me on it, need to look at it more, but looks like the MS example had one more round of polishing than yours did as well
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 Posted 05/13/2022  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's very unfortunate. That is a no-doubter 2F. Sorry to see this, hope that you can get it corrected! Nice coin nonetheless!

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 Posted 05/13/2022  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1buff2many to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jadenusa really sorry to hear that result, I definitely agree with you and the others that yours is a 2F and such an amazing rarity. There are so few of these that have shown up it is hard to believe the die in this state had much of a life.
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 Posted 05/14/2022  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't need to look at the PCGS sample, this one is without a doubt 2 feather.
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 Posted 05/14/2022  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenwright396 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for you, it's a 2F.
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 Posted 05/14/2022  08:46 am  Show Profile   Check jadenusa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jadenusa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all, at least this validates I'm not crazy or blind

Yes Coinfrog this required a variety code on submission, which I provided. I double checked after the fact as well in case it was an oversight on my part.

The grader also missed a no date 16/16. I don't think they were very familiar with the series sadly. I ended up turning off my membership renewal on this. PCGS' loss, I was going to assemble a full 2F variety set with them.
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 Posted 05/14/2022  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a shame to hear. I would be interested in seeing some images of that 1916 you mentioned. That's a real nice variety!

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 Posted 05/14/2022  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Check sheldius's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to hear that. It such a shame. I wonder if NGC would cross it and add the variety.
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