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1878-CC Morgan Dollar- Artificially Toned?

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 Posted 05/17/2022  11:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Fauzool to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm curious as to if this appears to be artificially toned and if it's worth it to send it in for a grade? Hopefully these pictures work I used the flash on my phone.

If it's artificially toned could you please explain to me why so I can try to understand.




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 Posted 05/17/2022  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Sure looks artificial to me. Others may chime in about the proper progression of color change that happens with natural toning. To my eye the color just looks wrong. In particular the area behind Liberty's head looks like some kind of chemical solution was applied to the surface and that chemical reacted with the silver to create this unnatural look.
Not worth submitting for a grade IMO since it would almost certainly be flagged as AT.
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 Posted 05/17/2022  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My instinct says AT.
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 Posted 05/17/2022  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Intentionally toned and not market acceptable. Here is a link to a web site with a tremendous amount of information regarding toned Morgan dollars. https://www.monstertonedmorgans.com...oned-morgans

to the CCF!

edit to add - link to AT examples http://www.jhonecash.com/coins/tone...s.asp#ntvsat
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 Posted 05/17/2022  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely AT. Shame, would have likely been a nice example had someone not messed with it.
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 Posted 05/17/2022  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fauzool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That really stinks It's artificial. I liked the looks of the coin. From what I know the seller said it was toned in an album but there wasn't artificial toning.
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 Posted 05/17/2022  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% artificially toned. Seller either did it himself, knows who did it or got burned when he made the mistake of buying it in the first place.

Seller's of coins like this target novice and uninformed collectors and are trying to make a quick buck. They will tell you what they think you want to hear. (ie- "album toning".). They are trying to unload the coin!

Always remember that most "nice" looking, scarcer date coins like this are not in slabs for a reason. Before buying an unslabbed rare coin do your homework just like you did here!



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 Posted 05/17/2022  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fauzool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all!!
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 Posted 05/17/2022  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrhakfbacon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still a keeper though, 1878-CC is a rarer date
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 Posted 05/17/2022  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smalldawg59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Artificially toned. The colors don't progress correctly from one shade to the next and whatever is going on behind Liberty's head is troublesome as is all the toning on the rim from 12 o'clock to 6.
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 Posted 05/17/2022  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Non market acceptable toning .
There is no such thing in today's
market as ARTIFICIAL OR NATURAL TONING .
Toning is classified as market or non market acceptable.
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 Posted 05/18/2022  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First,

Late to the party here, but I agree, AT. I agree with the upthread comments. Album toning comes from the sulfur content in the cardboard and tends to have a more even overall color, with the heavier toning in a circle near the rims.
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 Posted 05/19/2022  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dipped and retoned, but attractive.
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 Posted 05/19/2022  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what a bummer but yes
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