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Severus II Ae Follis

 
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 Posted 05/19/2022  8:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

In the chaotic scramble for power that followed the abdication of Diocletian (which ultimately resulted in the ascension of Constantine the Great), Flavius Valerius Severus, known to history as Severus II, served as something of a pawn. Made Augustus by Galerius, he subsequently failed to dislodge the usurper Maxentius in a siege of Rome, and in fact his legions deserted him there, going over to the enemy. Forced to flee to Ravenna, Severus II was nevertheless taken captive and either murdered or executed shortly thereafter.

This coin is roughly 28 mm in diameter and weighs 9.8 grams. I have it as RIC VI 26a, struck at Heraclea.





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 Posted 05/20/2022  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a marvelous piece
The issues of Severus are tough to find in this VF+ condition
The style is also quite good
For some obscure reason the depiction of Mssr Genius on the reverse Heraclea folles often lack detail and are often ill proportioned
Anything under $100 would be a good buy
Prices I have seen of late might even stretch to $200 !
IN GOD WE TRVST ....... all others pay cash !

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 Posted 05/20/2022  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Severus 11 is always difficult to get any example.
This one much better than most.
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 Posted 05/21/2022  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice.
This is my most recent Severus II.

Obv:- SEVERVS NOBILISSIMVS CAES, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:- GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI, Genius standing left, holding patera and cornucopia
Minted in London
Reference: RIC VI London 59a, LMCC 4.02.016
Weight: 8.1g
Diameter: 27.2mm

Part of a pot hoard found in Rauceby, UK in 2017. The hoard given the reference 2017 T649 by the British Museum who catalogued the hoard.

This coin given the hoard reference BM # 081

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 Posted 05/21/2022  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Wow. That's lovely, one could hardly ask for any better condition.

See: https://www.granthamjournal.co.uk/n...red-9069827/

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 Posted 05/22/2022  04:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Love the provenance !
For all CCF'ers:
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05/22/2022 04:46 am
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It is the second nicest coin I have from the same hoard. I think this one has more eye appeal.

Obv:- MAXIMINVS NOBILISSIMVS CAES, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:- GENIO POPVLI ROMANI,
Genius standing left, holding patera and cornucopia
Minted in London
Reference: RIC VI 59b, LMCC 4.03.024
Weight: 9.9g
Diameter: 28.2mm

Part of a pot hoard found in Rauceby, UK in 2017. The hoard given the reference 2017 T649 by the British Museum who catalogued the hoard.

This coin given the hoard reference BM#092

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 Posted 05/25/2022  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

In doing some research into these reverse motifs, I discovered that for the Romans the term genius didn't correspond to our modern definition, but was instead a rather more complex and mystical concept, referring to the spiritual forces or beings that guide individuals through life, infusing every person, animal, and even places. Indeed the entirety of the Roman people would have been believed to have their own shepherding genius (or genii). A cynical person might conclude that via his coinage, an emperor could be asserting that he also fulfilled that crucial role.

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 Posted 05/26/2022  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The precise meaning of the Genius of the Roman People on the coins of the Tetrarchy is open to interpretation I think. (Re-)introduced as a motif by Diocletian, it could be a symbol for the strength and unity of the Roman people under its new four-emperor rule (or for the emperors' ambitions in that direction). In extension it could be seen as symbolizing the unity of the Roman people in its (expected) support for the emperor. Or, why not, as the emperor being the guardian of the strength and prosperity of Rome and its people.

Interesting is that the Genius looks very much like the Genius of the Army which appeared on earlier 3rd century coins, with the same attributes. No doubt the army was key to the strength of the emperors as well as Rome; is there a deliberate merger of the geniuses of the army and the people here?

It is a bit frustrating that while the meaning of the symbolism here was probably entirely clear to the Romans of the time, we have to resort to guesses ...!

Anyway, here is my Severus II, GENIO POPVLI ROMANI type:

Obv: FL VAL SEVERVS NOB C (Flavius Valerius Severus Nobilissimus Caesar)
Rev: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius holding patera and cornucopia, wearing modius and chlamys.
Minted in Lyon/Lugdunum, 1st officina, 305-06.
RIC VI 193.
10.9 g, 28 mm.

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