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1780 2 Reale Purity Question

 
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 Posted 05/25/2022  02:26 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,

Numista has these two coins listed at different purities. One is .903 and one at .813; were these Reales minted in different purities with the same legends? Does the counterstamp mean a higher purity?

This is the coin I am interested in - https://romamonteverde.mercatinousa...-iii/3851032

The price on this coin should drop soon - shops here lower prices after 60 days.

Here are the two conflicting purities -

.813

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces14865.html

.903

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78553.html

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

R.
Edited by Roma2021
05/25/2022 05:54 am
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 Posted 05/25/2022  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly because one was issued in Spain and the other in Cuba.
Also note the Cuban coin is slightly thicker and weighs more.
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 Posted 05/25/2022  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Jimmy - the legends are identical which was confusing me. I would have thought the Cuban issued coin would have something identifying it besides the counterstamp.
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 Posted 05/28/2022  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "Cuban" pieces are simply peninsular Spain (aka the actual country of Spain proper) coins that were countermarked. The mark didn't indicate any kind of metallic content difference.

The Krause catalog has caused endless confusion on the specifications of the milled shield and portrait Spain 2 Reales. The Spain proper issues were in fact around 6.0g weight... and yes, with that lower .81 purity. The net result of that is that it took FIVE of these peninsular 2R coins to equal one Spanish peso, or 8 Reales, coin - as opposed to FOUR, which was still the case for the Spanish COLONIAL 2R. This was an intentional devaluation by the Spanish crown that was fully in effect by the early 1700s.
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 Posted 05/28/2022  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you @realeswatcher!
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